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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Scaly piscine said:
Err yea because they booed Gerrard didn't they?

Regardless of the motive the 'fans' in question are still scum.
Gerrard's clearly a different kettle of fish; he's beyond petty rivalries. First name on our team sheet.

& I agree; Crouch has done little wrong for England.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
BoyBrumby said:
Gerrard's clearly a different kettle of fish; he's beyond petty rivalries. First name on our team sheet.

& I agree; Crouch has done little wrong for England.
Really? Gerrard would be first on the bench if the manager was someone like Clough (after Gerrard's suspension). I fail to see what Gerrard has done for England to be such an automatic choice - he's an automatic choice on Liverpool based hype (likes of Hansen, Lawro who'll never criticise him and then Motson and some others will follow suit because they're too stupid to make up their own mind. The rest of the media have appointed Gerrard their new golden boy). There's only Rooney who's an automatic choice because he's the only world class player England have at the moment and there are not many other options for that position. There are plenty of other options for midfield (except for left wing), central defenders etc. .
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
BoyBrumby said:
Gerrard's clearly a different kettle of fish; he's beyond petty rivalries. First name on our team sheet.
First name on the team sheet despite doing nothingfor England. Ever. Desperate, are England.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Scaly piscine said:
Really? Gerrard would be first on the bench if the manager was someone like Clough (after Gerrard's suspension). I fail to see what Gerrard has done for England to be such an automatic choice - he's an automatic choice on Liverpool based hype (likes of Hansen, Lawro who'll never criticise him and then Motson and some others will follow suit because they're too stupid to make up their own mind. The rest of the media have appointed Gerrard their new golden boy). There's only Rooney who's an automatic choice because he's the only world class player England have at the moment and there are not many other options for that position. There are plenty of other options for midfield (except for left wing), central defenders etc. .
Great, I'm defending Liverpool players now... 8-)

Gerrard is clearly world class, it's not his fault he's regularly played out of position for England. Only weakness in Gerrard's game is his tackling. Gerrard looks better for Liverpool because they play a proper holding midfielder (Sissoko), unlike Carrick who isn't a holding midfielder's scrotum.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
steds said:
First name on the team sheet despite doing nothingfor England. Ever. Desperate, are England.
That whole "winning goal when we beat Germany 5-1" & "clinching goal v Trinidad & Tobago" pass you by, huh? Highland games on at the time, no doubt. :p
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
BoyBrumby said:
That whole "winning goal when we beat Germany 5-1" & "clinching goal v Trinidad & Tobago" pass you by, huh? Highland games on at the time, no doubt. :p
The 3 other "winning" goals vs. Germany and his average performance not only in the T&T game, but the whole world cup pass you by?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
steds said:
The 3 other "winning" goals vs. Germany and his average performance not only in the T&T game, but the whole world cup pass you by?
Tragically, no.

Our top scorer in said debacle tho....?
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
Yet, when Beckham moved into that role at the world cup he caused a great deal of problems, whilst Lennon moved into space ahead of him.
But if he played there in a 3-5-2 he wouldnt have Lennon infront of him will he? Plus he cant defend, he is not good enough to be a wing back against quality opposition.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
BoyBrumby said:
Great, I'm defending Liverpool players now... 8-)

Gerrard is clearly world class, it's not his fault he's regularly played out of position for England. Only weakness in Gerrard's game is his tackling. Gerrard looks better for Liverpool because they play a proper holding midfielder (Sissoko), unlike Carrick who isn't a holding midfielder's scrotum.
and his marking... and his backtracking... and his passing... and his ball control...

This being played out of position is rubbish - he doesn't even know how to play to position anyway so I don't think him not playing with a 'proper holding midfielder' would dramatically turn him into an average English international player.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Scaly piscine said:
and his marking... and his backtracking... and his passing... and his ball control...

This being played out of position is rubbish - he doesn't even know how to play to position anyway so I don't think him not playing with a 'proper holding midfielder' would dramatically turn him into an average English international player.
Yeah, yeah. You're right. I give up.

We'll play Scott Parker instead, shall we?
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
So here's another 2 midfielders to add to the many in the squad.
Well IMO the others in the squad won't make sense in Croatia or anytime time in the future, so why not call up players who are playing well & maybe could actually add something to the side.


marc71178 said:
Funny how the worst of the 4 yesterday is the one you retain.
Well i didn't see Carrick all i'm hearing is that he was poor, but with Lampard a bit off colour i'll start him at least but if he doesn't impress he could sub him for Lamps.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Scaly piscine said:
and his marking... and his backtracking... and his passing... and his ball control....
I see nothing wrong with Stevie G's passing & ball control, he obviously wont be too great in the other two since he is not a defensive player

Scaly piscine said:
This being played out of position is rubbish - he doesn't even know how to play to position anyway so I don't think him not playing with a 'proper holding midfielder' would dramatically turn him into an average English international player.
How can you say he doesn't know to play to position mayn WTF, his position is in the CAM role, while he versatile enough to play on the right wing. At liverpool and England recent games when Hargreaves was in when he plays on the right the presence of the likes of Sissoko & Hargreaves aids him.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
aussie said:
I see nothing wrong with Stevie G's passing & ball control, he obviously wont be too great in the other two since he is not a defensive player



How can you say he doesn't know to play to position mayn WTF, his position is in the CAM role, while he versatile enough to play on the right wing. At liverpool and England recent games when Hargreaves was in when he plays on the right the presence of the likes of Sissoko & Hargreaves aids him.
He gave the ball away repeatedly yesterday, other than that he overestimates his own ability with the frequent 'hollywood ball' he goes for. His ball control is and always has been obviously crap - never have I seen a player overrun the ball so often (and then he usually lunges into the defender - did this twice on the edge of Macedonia's area last game and thus stuffed up those good positions).

He obviously does not know how to play a position if you saw him move infield all game against Macedonia (not the first time he's done that either) - he was even wide on the left at one point, possibly the only time he was actually out wide all game. Err yea like Matteh says.

Also there's no excuse for not marking or backtracking, Downing can't tackle either but he still did his bit.
 
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Barney Rubble

International Coach
I didn't even get the chance to watch last night's game as I was working, but IMO it's a new low for Scaly in claiming Steven Gerrard should be dropped from the England side. That's worse than the "Henry's rubbish" argument. :-O 8-)
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
tbh, i'm glad england didnt win this game, and i hope they get beaten again on wednesday, for the simple reason that they are an terribly tedious setup, regardless of who is in charge, it just simply isnt interesting, watching them is a painful, dull and boring experience, and the european championships will be a greater pleasure to watch if they are not in it. Year after year we see england stodge tediously through mediocre qualifying groups only to foul up repeatedly on the grand stages. If england get to the tournament which of course they will of course i shall support them, but i'm just not interested in this qualfying rubbish when small teams that should be seen off easily continue pose england considerable problems. Its much more interesting to watch scotland or northern ireland...but seeing as england wont win the euro, i'm ******* for germany.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Barney Rubble said:
I didn't even get the chance to watch last night's game as I was working, but IMO it's a new low for Scaly in claiming Steven Gerrard should be dropped from the England side. That's worse than the "Henry's rubbish" argument. :-O 8-)
Gerrard should be dropped to give him a kick up the backside, still you didn't even watch the game so you won't have seen his laziness which directly led to two decent chances for Macedonia. Not to mention his incredibly smart lunge on the edge of England's penalty area which got him a yellow card and suspended for Croatia (bonus).

Not to mention the fact that he was absolutely awful all game anyway.
 

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