BoyBrumby
Englishman
Look at who he plays for & where the game was played.Scaly piscine said:Crouch was booed on numerous occasions.
Look at who he plays for & where the game was played.Scaly piscine said:Crouch was booed on numerous occasions.
Err yea because they booed Gerrard didn't they?BoyBrumby said:Look at who he plays for & where the game was played.
Gerrard's clearly a different kettle of fish; he's beyond petty rivalries. First name on our team sheet.Scaly piscine said:Err yea because they booed Gerrard didn't they?
Regardless of the motive the 'fans' in question are still scum.
Really? Gerrard would be first on the bench if the manager was someone like Clough (after Gerrard's suspension). I fail to see what Gerrard has done for England to be such an automatic choice - he's an automatic choice on Liverpool based hype (likes of Hansen, Lawro who'll never criticise him and then Motson and some others will follow suit because they're too stupid to make up their own mind. The rest of the media have appointed Gerrard their new golden boy). There's only Rooney who's an automatic choice because he's the only world class player England have at the moment and there are not many other options for that position. There are plenty of other options for midfield (except for left wing), central defenders etc. .BoyBrumby said:Gerrard's clearly a different kettle of fish; he's beyond petty rivalries. First name on our team sheet.
& I agree; Crouch has done little wrong for England.
First name on the team sheet despite doing nothingfor England. Ever. Desperate, are England.BoyBrumby said:Gerrard's clearly a different kettle of fish; he's beyond petty rivalries. First name on our team sheet.
Great, I'm defending Liverpool players now...Scaly piscine said:Really? Gerrard would be first on the bench if the manager was someone like Clough (after Gerrard's suspension). I fail to see what Gerrard has done for England to be such an automatic choice - he's an automatic choice on Liverpool based hype (likes of Hansen, Lawro who'll never criticise him and then Motson and some others will follow suit because they're too stupid to make up their own mind. The rest of the media have appointed Gerrard their new golden boy). There's only Rooney who's an automatic choice because he's the only world class player England have at the moment and there are not many other options for that position. There are plenty of other options for midfield (except for left wing), central defenders etc. .
That whole "winning goal when we beat Germany 5-1" & "clinching goal v Trinidad & Tobago" pass you by, huh? Highland games on at the time, no doubt.steds said:First name on the team sheet despite doing nothingfor England. Ever. Desperate, are England.
The 3 other "winning" goals vs. Germany and his average performance not only in the T&T game, but the whole world cup pass you by?BoyBrumby said:That whole "winning goal when we beat Germany 5-1" & "clinching goal v Trinidad & Tobago" pass you by, huh? Highland games on at the time, no doubt.
Tragically, no.steds said:The 3 other "winning" goals vs. Germany and his average performance not only in the T&T game, but the whole world cup pass you by?
But if he played there in a 3-5-2 he wouldnt have Lennon infront of him will he? Plus he cant defend, he is not good enough to be a wing back against quality opposition.marc71178 said:Yet, when Beckham moved into that role at the world cup he caused a great deal of problems, whilst Lennon moved into space ahead of him.
and his marking... and his backtracking... and his passing... and his ball control...BoyBrumby said:Great, I'm defending Liverpool players now...
Gerrard is clearly world class, it's not his fault he's regularly played out of position for England. Only weakness in Gerrard's game is his tackling. Gerrard looks better for Liverpool because they play a proper holding midfielder (Sissoko), unlike Carrick who isn't a holding midfielder's scrotum.
Yeah, yeah. You're right. I give up.Scaly piscine said:and his marking... and his backtracking... and his passing... and his ball control...
This being played out of position is rubbish - he doesn't even know how to play to position anyway so I don't think him not playing with a 'proper holding midfielder' would dramatically turn him into an average English international player.
Well IMO the others in the squad won't make sense in Croatia or anytime time in the future, so why not call up players who are playing well & maybe could actually add something to the side.marc71178 said:So here's another 2 midfielders to add to the many in the squad.
Well i didn't see Carrick all i'm hearing is that he was poor, but with Lampard a bit off colour i'll start him at least but if he doesn't impress he could sub him for Lamps.marc71178 said:Funny how the worst of the 4 yesterday is the one you retain.
I see nothing wrong with Stevie G's passing & ball control, he obviously wont be too great in the other two since he is not a defensive playerScaly piscine said:and his marking... and his backtracking... and his passing... and his ball control....
How can you say he doesn't know to play to position mayn WTF, his position is in the CAM role, while he versatile enough to play on the right wing. At liverpool and England recent games when Hargreaves was in when he plays on the right the presence of the likes of Sissoko & Hargreaves aids him.Scaly piscine said:This being played out of position is rubbish - he doesn't even know how to play to position anyway so I don't think him not playing with a 'proper holding midfielder' would dramatically turn him into an average English international player.
He gave the ball away repeatedly yesterday, other than that he overestimates his own ability with the frequent 'hollywood ball' he goes for. His ball control is and always has been obviously crap - never have I seen a player overrun the ball so often (and then he usually lunges into the defender - did this twice on the edge of Macedonia's area last game and thus stuffed up those good positions).aussie said:I see nothing wrong with Stevie G's passing & ball control, he obviously wont be too great in the other two since he is not a defensive player
How can you say he doesn't know to play to position mayn WTF, his position is in the CAM role, while he versatile enough to play on the right wing. At liverpool and England recent games when Hargreaves was in when he plays on the right the presence of the likes of Sissoko & Hargreaves aids him.
Gerrard should be dropped to give him a kick up the backside, still you didn't even watch the game so you won't have seen his laziness which directly led to two decent chances for Macedonia. Not to mention his incredibly smart lunge on the edge of England's penalty area which got him a yellow card and suspended for Croatia (bonus).Barney Rubble said:I didn't even get the chance to watch last night's game as I was working, but IMO it's a new low for Scaly in claiming Steven Gerrard should be dropped from the England side. That's worse than the "Henry's rubbish" argument.
just noticed that, stupid filter.i'm ******* for germany.