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*Official* English Football Season 2005-06
- Thread starter Neil Pickup
- Start date
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
With no one even trying to mark him?Craig said:
Nah, sounds slightly better. Would say Pedersen's goal was more crucial, tho.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
I really wasn't convinced by the 4-5-1 gubbins for us yesterday. Nor, for that matter, was I convinced about Sven's protestations that it was "all my own work, honestly guv..."; Sven is an absolute, dyed-in-the-wool 4-4-2 man. I thought it was a bit of slap in the face to Defoe too, who's started the season v well (and this from an Arsenal fan, so you know I don't praise their players lightly!) & looks ready-made replacement for Mickey O.
What I predicated actually happened, we had shed-loads of possession but didn't create anything like enough chances. At HT the possession was 81%-19% in our favour! I can't ever recall stats like those in any game, yet our only clear-cut chance was Rooney's effort which the Welsh keeper did v well with.
Our goal had more than a slice of jam about it (massive deflection) & then when we are ahead Sven hauls off Wright-Phillips for Defoe and we're back to 4-4-2! We seemed to spend the last 10 minutes or so hanging-on rather more than I would've liked to see, but all-in-all, the 3 points were the crucial thing.
What I predicated actually happened, we had shed-loads of possession but didn't create anything like enough chances. At HT the possession was 81%-19% in our favour! I can't ever recall stats like those in any game, yet our only clear-cut chance was Rooney's effort which the Welsh keeper did v well with.
Our goal had more than a slice of jam about it (massive deflection) & then when we are ahead Sven hauls off Wright-Phillips for Defoe and we're back to 4-4-2! We seemed to spend the last 10 minutes or so hanging-on rather more than I would've liked to see, but all-in-all, the 3 points were the crucial thing.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Very possibly, which makes me think all the more that it was "player-power" that got things moved over to the five in the middle we saw yesterday. I think Sven needs to tell Becks, Gerrard, Fat Frank & Rio (or whoever the players' reps were) a few home-truths about who picks the team.Craig said:
Moreover, Rooney's game isn't suited to playing as a lone striker. His best postion is always going to be behind that out-and-out striker.
twctopcat
International Regular
I don't see formation being the issue here at all, a rather fruitless argument. It is merely a question of motivating these club players to play well for England, something which very few of them ever seem to do. Somebody needs to clone Vince Lombardi because Sven couldn't motivate a lion to hunt in a pack of Wildebeests.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Fair enough point about motivation, although I still maintain 4-4-2 is the best formation for the players we have, but if players need motivation to play for England then they shouldn't be picked!twctopcat said:
Also I suspect Sven has more steel in his soul than we give him credit for. I doubt anyone could be as successful as him without it.
Craig
World Traveller
And I think you can apply that to many cases about player's having too much of an influence in not just football but in a lot of sports (one of the rumours is that Roberto Carlos and his mates have had their way in having a manager sacked by RM).BoyBrumby said:
That is way Brian Clough was/is my favourite all-time managers, he went in and told them who was boss (even to the board) and if a player didn't like it, he was gone (personally I think banning him training and playing until he changes his ways is better then selling him is what he wants. And if he has a long term contract he would buck up his ideas as after not playing or training for 2 seasons he will be of no use to anybody).
