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*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
A question on the Teamtalk quiz today.

However that (and the relative GPG ratio of all the highest PL scorers) speaks volumes...
Doesn't mean jack, Rooney would take far more long range strikes and far fewer tap-ins because he doesn't play nearly as advanced as chief poseur. France and CDMs' goal-scoring record against teams that aren't a soft touch speaks volumes about chief poseur. As does his consistent knack of bottling it.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
I'm a Man Utd fan, I don't like Arsenal, and I still disagree with all of what you said. :blink: Rooney makes most of his strikes from inside the box when he actually goes for it.. and I think Henry does the same, getting the ball and running into the box and scoring. He doesn't hang around in the goalbox waiting for a cross a la van Nistelrooy, or anything like that. You so crazy.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Loony BoB said:
I'm a Man Utd fan, I don't like Arsenal, and I still disagree with all of what you said. :blink: Rooney makes most of his strikes from inside the box when he actually goes for it.. and I think Henry does the same, getting the ball and running into the box and scoring. He doesn't hang around in the goalbox waiting for a cross a la van Nistelrooy, or anything like that. You so crazy.
He has lots of drives from outside the box, chief poseur will get plenty of sitters like horse but probably not as many. That's all it takes for a daft statistic like shots per goal to be in favour of one player over another. Even stuff like rounding the keeper and then shooting into the empty net as opposed to just hitting a shot straight off will alter it - it's meaningless, especially as there are not even any proper figures quoted to look at.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Henry:
Goals: 27
Shots on goal: 67
Shots/goal: 2.91
Minutes per goal: 104mins
Avg goals/game: 0.84
Pens taken/scored: 3/3
Pitch position scored from:
Left 6 Yard: 1
Right 6 Yard: 1
Left Channel: 5
Right Channel: 1
Left Wing: 1
Right Wing: 0
Left Byline: 0
Right Byline: 0
Left Penalty Area: 6
Right Penalty Area: 3
Centre Penalty Area: 6
Penalty Spot: 3
Own Half: 0

Rooney:
Goals: 16
Shots on goal: 73
Shots/goal: 4.29
Minutes per goal: 203mins
Avg goals/game: 0.44
Pens taken/scored: 0/0
Pitch position scored from:
Left 6 Yard: 0
Right 6 Yard: 0
Left Channel: 1
Right Channel: 0
Left Wing: 0
Right Wing: 0
Left Byline: 0
Right Byline: 0
Left Penalty Area: 0
Right Penalty Area: 6
Centre Penalty Area: 9
Penalty Spot: 0
Own Half: 0
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Scaly piscine said:
Doesn't mean jack, Rooney would take far more long range strikes and far fewer tap-ins because he doesn't play nearly as advanced as chief poseur. France and CDMs' goal-scoring record against teams that aren't a soft touch speaks volumes about chief poseur. As does his consistent knack of bottling it.
And remind us of Rooney's fantastic record then...

How many goals has he scored against good nations?

That'll be 1.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
And remind us of Rooney's fantastic record then...

How many goals has he scored against good nations?

That'll be 1.
How many 'good nations' has he played?

I can remember him practically running the show against France, probably against Poland but can't remember those games, short time he was on against Portugal etc.

It's not like all he did was wander around do a few useless 'tricks', create virtually nothing and miss two complete sitters in a final...

Chief poseur is a proven bottler and flat track bully, Rooney is an unproven great player - hopefully not going the way of Gazza.



As for those 'stats' on the previous page they're still virtually meaningless because they're vague to start with ('left channel' etc.) and don't tell you whether it was an open goal,.which team it was against, how many they missed and where they were from etc. Hell if you remove the penalties chief poseur's stats shots/goal shoots right up - like I say all it takes is for one player to have a few more sitters, or for one to get easier chances and the stats tell a completely different story. This is without factoring padding a record against rubbish teams with bad keepers and chief poseur still remains a flat track bully.

Anyway interesting stats, if they're on a website I'd be interested in the link, if not see if you can find horse's record just for amusement...
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Rooney and Henry play different styles of football and have different roles for their teams so it's difficult to compare them.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Methinks the xenophobe does protest too much.

When he starts talking about Poland as "quality" you know he's struggling.
 

Craig

World Traveller
No Poland were (apparently).

Well they did qualify for the World Cup so they must be doing something ok.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Yes but then Poland are a lot better side then Trinidad.

And what qualifies as 'quality'? But the squad lists they have? The standard of the domestic league or the management they have? Does England count as 'quality' despite not doing anything since 1966?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
Methinks the xenophobe does protest too much.

When he starts talking about Poland as "quality" you know he's struggling.
Where exactly are Poland referred to as "quality" anyway?
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Scaly piscine said:
Anyway interesting stats, if they're on a website I'd be interested in the link, if not see if you can find horse's record just for amusement...
They're from the Opta stats comparision section on the premierleague website.
 

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