*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

[Pothas]

Hmm, it isn't over yet, unlikely but Spurs could conceivably win their appeal - especially if they've got a majority of the Premier League Chairmen on their side.

I think that is very unlikely.

 

[Tom Halsey]

They've finished 4th over a 38 game season - since the top 4 go through, then yes, they do deserve it.

They finished 4th arguably because the other team was unfairly hindered (and yes 1 game is enough to make a difference over 38).

 

[Tom Halsey]

I think that is very unlikely.

And I said as much (but I do think it is possible).

 

[luckyeddie]

They finished 4th arguably because the other team was unfairly hindered (and yes 1 game is enough to make a difference over 38).

Can we replay the 1972 European Cup semi-final please? The referee was bribed and I'm convinced that Derby would have become the second English side to win the competition.

Brian Clough would never have left to go to manage Forest, Derby would have won a dozen European Cups before the great man decided to take the England job, and his 16 years in charge of the national side would have seen us win the World Cup 4 times on the trot.

Not only that, he'd have never turned to the bottle and died the way he did - in fact, only last week he would have become the first Protestant to become Pope.

'If' is a big word - but not as big as 'what a load of complete and utter tosh'

 

[BoyBrumby]

They finished 4th arguably because the other team was unfairly hindered (and yes 1 game is enough to make a difference over 38).

Not "unfairly hindered" by any reasonable definition. The police aren't persuing their investigations any further so it's safe to assume there's no suspicion of foul play.

They may have been unlucky, but frankly so what? All teams have players unavailable for one reason or another at some stage of the season & aren't given the opportunity to replay their games when the result goes against them.

 

[Matteh]

As i understand it if a large percentage of your squad are injured you can apply for a postponement - It's happened to Mansfield in the last two years. But obviously with the last game of the season, Premiership team and the way that it sounds like an excuse combination, Tottenham weren't going to get it.

 

[roseboy64]

Not "unfairly hindered" by any reasonable definition. The police aren't persuing their investigations any further so it's safe to assume there's no suspicion of foul play.

They may have been unlucky, but frankly so what? All teams have players unavailable for one reason or another at some stage of the season & aren't given the opportunity to replay their games when the result goes against them.

Not pretty much all their first team squad though. Can't expect to win a match with only four or five players fully fit against a team with all of their players fit.

 

[BoyBrumby]

As i understand it if a large percentage of your squad are injured you can apply for a postponement - It's happened to Mansfield in the last two years. But obviously with the last game of the season, Premiership team and the way that it sounds like an excuse combination, Tottenham weren't going to get it.

Didn't work that way for Middlesboro when they were hit by a virus in 1997. They called off a game (v Blackburn, IIRC) & were summarily docked 3 points which was crucial in them being relegated that season. Although I suspect they acted unilaterally.

 

[marc71178]

That's just semantics. You don't know what I mean by that statement. There may well be a big gap but he's very close to closing it. He's already shown he can be Premiership class and a regular run in the side may just prove that.

No, it's not semantics, it's a clear fact - there's a gulf.

How in 1 game versus Burton has he shown anything like Premiership class?

 

[marc71178]

I bet if you were a Spurs fan you wouldn't be saying that.

No, I would, because the league table is the only thing that matters.

Bearing in mind that since Xmas my side has been about the 2nd or 3rd best in the Chmapionship but got nowhere near the play-offs, I think I can say that...

 

[marc71178]

Hmm, it isn't over yet, unlikely but Spurs could conceivably win their appeal

How could they?

The matter was discussed on Sunday, pre-game...

 

[marc71178]

They finished 4th arguably because the other team was unfairly hindered (and yes 1 game is enough to make a difference over 38).

If 1 game is enough to make a difference over the 38 you can hardly say that they conclusively deserved it.

The facts are that Arsenal finished 4th and thus get the 4th spot in the CL, regardless of what's fair or not.

 

[roseboy64]

No, it's not semantics, it's a clear fact - there's a gulf.

How in 1 game versus Burton has he shown anything like Premiership class?

That's not been his only first team game.

 

[roseboy64]

No, I would, because the league table is the only thing that matters.

Bearing in mind that since Xmas my side has been about the 2nd or 3rd best in the Chmapionship but got nowhere near the play-offs, I think I can say that...

Fair enough I guess.

 

[Matteh]

That's not been his only first team game.

He played against Charlton instead of Ruud

 

[roseboy64]

How could they?

The matter was discussed on Sunday, pre-game...

According to Spurs' chairman everything didn't go as should have pre game, not talking about the players being sick.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/clublettertofapl.html

 

[roseboy64]

He played against Charlton instead of Ruud

He's made 4 Premiership appearances this season.

 

[luckyeddie]

According to Spurs' chairman everything didn't go as should have pre game, not talking about the players being sick.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/clublettertofapl.html

q - Who knocked Tottenham out of the 2006/7 Champions League?
a - The Metropolitan Police

 

[Tom Halsey]

If 1 game is enough to make a difference over the 38 you can hardly say that they conclusively deserved it.

The facts are that Arsenal finished 4th and thus get the 4th spot in the CL, regardless of what's fair or not.

Arsenal only came 4th because of the last game - so similarly you cannot say they conclusively deserved it.

The second sentence I agree with, but IMO it isn't completely fair.

 

[Tom Halsey]

How could they?

The matter was discussed on Sunday, pre-game...

Well, they're discussing it again at the Board meeting today, and armed with a majority of Premier League chairmen behind Spurs... I do think there is a slight chance.