Tom Halsey
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It was a pretty big lunge granted, but I thought it wasn't worthy of anything more than a yellow.Scaly piscine said:
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*Official* English Football Season 2005-06
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Scaly piscine
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You set a very dangerous precedent if you allow people to 'tackle' like that and stay on the pitch. To jump into a tackle and have all your momentum going at an angle downwards is a recipe for broken legs.Tom Halsey said:
Barney Rubble
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No contact, definite intent. If he'd connected it could have broken the guy's leg.marc71178 said:
PY
International Coach
I agree with what SP said I reckon, it'd set a dangerous precedent if you allowed things like that not to go unpunished.
The challenge itself if you freeze framed the contact wasn't bad IMO, in fact it looked innocuous. The main problem was the initial lunge & high foot which was then dropped at the last moment but looked horrific and showed possible intent.
I can see both sides of the argument from both sides (something I think people could do with doing sometimes when it comes to Man Utd) but today there were much worse challenges in the Blackburn-Bolton game that didn't get sendings off and have seen less things get sendings off today like the straight red in the Arsenal game was a joke. It's one of those decisions that depends on the mood of the ref and the game.
The challenge itself if you freeze framed the contact wasn't bad IMO, in fact it looked innocuous. The main problem was the initial lunge & high foot which was then dropped at the last moment but looked horrific and showed possible intent.
I can see both sides of the argument from both sides (something I think people could do with doing sometimes when it comes to Man Utd) but today there were much worse challenges in the Blackburn-Bolton game that didn't get sendings off and have seen less things get sendings off today like the straight red in the Arsenal game was a joke. It's one of those decisions that depends on the mood of the ref and the game.
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luckyeddie
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Just watched a re-run of Blackburn v Notlob - there were a good 3 or 4 far worse.Scaly piscine said:
OK, make that marginally worse.
And Savage.
luckyeddie
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Ridiculous - but almost rationable.PY said:
Not like me and Leeds - that hate goes back 35 years or more, and stems purely from a rivalry between the managers - coupled with the fact that Billy Bremner was probably the most loathsome individual to walk on this planet - note I've watered that down a lot because I don't like speaking ill of the dead.
Now me and Nothingham Florists - that's perfectly all too understandable, them being Satan's team.
Edit : rationable, for those of you far more illiteratter than what I is (and Kiwis), means 'both rational and understandable'
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Tom Halsey
International Coach
How anyone can say that when they haven't even seen it is, as Pete said, bordering on ridiculous.marc71178 said:
I agree there was definitely a pretty big lunge, but IMO there was no intent or contact.
Neil Pickup
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Just watched MotD. Big high lunge with studs up and nowhere near the ball. Perfectly rationable red card.
As for Blackburn-Bolton? That was just getting stuck in rather than bad tackles. Great to see Blackburn getting their own medicine for once!
As for Blackburn-Bolton? That was just getting stuck in rather than bad tackles. Great to see Blackburn getting their own medicine for once!
Tom Halsey
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How are bad tackles seen as 'getting stuck in', and then as soon as a UNited player makes a bad tackle it's a definate red card? Make your mind up.Neil Pickup said:
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Two different kinds of bad. Bad in terms of over-committed and bad in terms of being downright dirty.
None of the Blackburn and Bolton tackles I saw took place with studs pointing skywards.
None of the Blackburn and Bolton tackles I saw took place with studs pointing skywards.
PY
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They didn't show the 2nd yellow card, the TV just showed a straight red without the 2nd yellow?
Letter of the law it was a booking, and he should have been off for his second caution but I'm not sure it was a second booking. It says it was on BBC but I didn't see it on the highlights.
Letter of the law it was a booking, and he should have been off for his second caution but I'm not sure it was a second booking. It says it was on BBC but I didn't see it on the highlights.
luckyeddie
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An 'over the ball' stamp and what looked like a deliberate rake down the shin.Neil Pickup said:
As far as tackles on Savage go though, they're fair game because the guy's a thug.
Reviewed the Ronaldo one - different camera angle makes it look 'a bit naughty'.
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