chris.hinton
International Captain
Brad Hogg Taking wickets now take Note Marc Leg-spinners are on the way back
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*Official* English Domestic Season (2004)
- Thread starter chris.hinton
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marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Yes great - an Aussie import left arm chinaman bowler who is having a bad season with the ball picks up 4 wickets (whilst going at 4+ an over) on a pitch where even Mark Wagh takes 3.chris.hinton said:
Quite what that tells us about English leg spinners I don't know.
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Bell still there though
SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
He's certainly on fire (nice weather for it too). Pieterson got a quickfire 150+ too.marc71178 said:
chris.hinton
International Captain
Marc who cares if Hogg is going for 4 an over he took 4 WICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Keedy with 5-109 off 40 and 3-49 off 17 would be a better role model
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
TBH his batting isnt good enough.... if we found a fast bowler that could bat a bit he might b an option but for the moment the spinner has to be able to bat unfortunately
and by the time the likes of 'Geoff' Bresnan and Chris Tremmlett and the other up and coming bowlers who can bat a bit are knocking on the door, Keedys time might well have passed.
IMO you have to have a number eight who can bat a bit,you can only have 3 genuine tail enders, and right now Hoggard doesn't have any attacking shots, Harmison and Anderson aren't much cop and Jones debut promise has remained unfulfilled
and by the time the likes of 'Geoff' Bresnan and Chris Tremmlett and the other up and coming bowlers who can bat a bit are knocking on the door, Keedys time might well have passed.
IMO you have to have a number eight who can bat a bit,you can only have 3 genuine tail enders, and right now Hoggard doesn't have any attacking shots, Harmison and Anderson aren't much cop and Jones debut promise has remained unfulfilled
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superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Unfortunately only Bradford's finest (oxymoron) Gareth BattySwervy said:
Swervy
International Captain
of course...forgot about him.superkingdave said:
Do you think thats how England should play it then, go for the batting as opposed to bowling ability...i mean Giles would still be first choice for tests in SA, but if required, do you not think a good spinner is better than an average spinner (not saying Batty is only average,i think he has decent potential) with decent batting abilty.
I am not disagreeing with you by the way,I am just wondering what would be best
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
I think maybe Keedy should have gone to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka after last season - then he could have played with Giles in tandem.
Now if only Harmison and Hoggard had similar batting prowess to Caddick and early Gough then i could see Keedy playing as it is we are only going to play one spinner in SA and that will be Giles. If Giles is unavailable then yes it has to be Batty, we saw what happened to WI tail in WI with Best, Edwards, Collins and Collymore.
The long term goal must be to have players who have sufficient batting prowess that we can pick the best bowling line up regardless of batting ability but at the moment that is not the case.
Sorry if that's a bit muddled but my general viewpoint is that our strength is pace and so we should play our best pace attack and that means our spinner has to bat!
Now if only Harmison and Hoggard had similar batting prowess to Caddick and early Gough then i could see Keedy playing as it is we are only going to play one spinner in SA and that will be Giles. If Giles is unavailable then yes it has to be Batty, we saw what happened to WI tail in WI with Best, Edwards, Collins and Collymore.
The long term goal must be to have players who have sufficient batting prowess that we can pick the best bowling line up regardless of batting ability but at the moment that is not the case.
Sorry if that's a bit muddled but my general viewpoint is that our strength is pace and so we should play our best pace attack and that means our spinner has to bat!