***Official*** England in Sri Lanka 2012

[GIMH]

Opposition fans not liking a player isn't a bad thing...

Anyhow, we have a spinner with 170 test wickets averaging 28 who bowls teams out on spinning pitches on the last day. I have no idea what the problem with his ability/results is meant to be tbh.

That he doesn't have 200@24

 

[Cabinet96]

Greg Chappell would be very happy with the way this CWB guy thinks. When Ganguly failed he was adamant to believe that Ganguly was the best possible no. 6 in India at the time. So he replaced Ganguly with Yuvraj. Then Yuvraj failed. He replaced Yuvraj by Raina. Raina failed. He replaced Raina by Venugopal Rao (?). So the spiral kept on going downwards.

Modern motivational books and lectures will never tell you to accept defeat. They will never tell you that your best team mightn't be good enough to win.They'll never teach you to accept that your best isn't good enough. It'll tell you to 'change' something when you are failing, regardless of anything. Greg Chappell comes from that school of thought.

Similarly when KP and Bell fail, CWB won't accept that they're the best no. 4 and 5 England has. He'll want them replaced by 2 other guys. What if those 2 fail more miserably? Replace them with 2 more new guys...Keep on doing it...until you reach to Venugopal Rao...

AWTA. And what more we've already done it with Bell before. We brought in Shah and he did nothing, so we brought in Bopara and he had a **** Ashes, so we went back to Bell and look how it's turned out in the last 2 years

 

[Burgey]

LOL Atherton - "Broad just trying to get the ball into Prior's gloves."

Ignoring the batsman between them I suppose, all about three metres from the stumps.

 

[Spark]

AWTA. And what more we've already done it with Bell before. We brought in Shah and he did nothing, so we brought in Bopara and he had a **** Ashes, so we went back to Bell and look how it's turned out in the last 2 years

Dropping Bell ended up to be a really good thing for him though. Suspect fairly strongly that he wouldn't have had the 2010-11 he had without it.

 

[CWB304]

the match slipping away from England

It's long since gone. With top and middle order batting like England's, you really need to bowl out the opposition for less than 200 twice to have any hope of winning in these conditions. In fact it would serve England right for all the nonsense they've been up to in the tour matches if Mahela were to completely humiliate them by declaring now with a lead of 280 and two wickets still standing. I'd be surprised if England could get anywhere near 200.

Meanwhile the pollyannaists will continue to argue that top order batsmen who have been batting like tail enders and averaging in single figures or the low teens in successive overseas tours should be retained, because Greg Chappell once replaced a washed up Ganguly first with a guy who was never cut out for Test cricket in the first place, as he was basically helpless against the short ball, and then with someone who was even worse against that type of bowling, or because Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara have been tried and found wanting for England.

For pollyannaists, it doesn't matter if Bell and KP continue to average, say, 15 in the SC for the rest of their Test careers, because anyone proposing change is equivalent to the guy who decided that replacing Ganguly with two guys who were walking wickets against the rising ball was a good idea.

This house proposes that only intelligent persons ought to attempt to make analogies. Discuss.

 

[NUFAN]

It's long since gone. With top and middle order batting like England's, you really need to bowl out the opposition for less than 200 twice to have any hope of winning in these conditions. In fact it would serve England right for all the nonsense they've been up to in the tour matches if Mahela were to completely humiliate them by declaring now with a lead of 280 and two wickets still standing. I'd be surprised if England could get anywhere near 200.

Meanwhile the pollyannaists will continue to argue that top order batsmen who have been batting like tail enders and averaging in single figures or the low teens in successive overseas tours should be retained, because Greg Chappell once replaced a washed up Ganguly first with a guy who was never cut out for Test cricket in the first place, as he was basically helpless against the short ball, and then with someone who was even worse against that type of bowling, or because Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara have been tried and found wanting for England.

For pollyannaists, it doesn't matter if Bell and KP continue to average, say, 15 in the SC for the rest of their Test careers, because anyone proposing change is equivalent to the guy who decided that replacing Ganguly with two guys who were walking wickets against the rising ball was a good idea.

This house proposes that only intelligent persons ought to attempt to make analogies. Discuss.

Such a maladroit response by a 'deleterious to forum atmosphere' kind of individual.

 

[Spark]

! such bad camerawork. ball went about four metres from the bowler, but instead the camera was at deep midwicket

edit: since when did broad bowl no-balls?

 

[CWB304]

Such a maladroit response by a 'deleterious to forum atmosphere' kind of individual.

You would say that - or something like that -, wouldn't you? After all, you appear to believe this England batting lineup to be capable of chasing down 275....

 

[Spikey]

ahahahahahhaha

 

[Burgey]

Laaaaaaaaaadddddddyyyyyy Boi

 

[Spikey]

i'm laughing at the camerawork ftr

 

[Spark]

wow, is that legal?

edit: no. ok.

 

[Burgey]

Can't be out run out, peanut. He wasn't attempting a run.

 

[smash84]

lol, caught and bowled off a no ball

 

[smash84]

Meanwhile the pollyannaists will continue to argue that top order batsmen who have been batting like tail enders and averaging in single figures or the low teens in successive overseas tours should be retained, because Greg Chappell once replaced a washed up Ganguly first with a guy who was never cut out for Test cricket in the first place, as he was basically helpless against the short ball, and then with someone who was even worse against that type of bowling, or because Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara have been tried and found wanting for England.

I'd be surprised if England could get anywhere near 200.

The way they played in the first innings lends credence to such fears

 

[NUFAN]

You would say that - or something like that -, wouldn't you? After all, you appear to believe this England batting lineup to be capable of chasing down 275....

Yes - but that Broad no ball might make just that little bit too much. If you were picking an English XI who would make your team?

The only player I definitely wouldn't be playing is Patel. Strauss I guess is debatable too.

 

[smash84]

England are so much fun to watch in test matches these days

 

[Spikey]

Each run by these two worth double [/another cricket cliche]

costly noball that

 

[smash84]

a four and then a ***

 

[Spark]

so you know these three wooden sticks in the ground right