superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
That should probably read 'to anyone other than Aus'
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*Official* England in South Africa Thread
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Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well they had an even better (I imagine, too much like hard work looking up series results on cricinfo) Test record at home, but they certainly weren't anything brilliant against England. I'm more concerned about the day/night games that could well come down to who wins the toss than I am about SA's one-day record.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
I'd go with Hoaggard too, especially as the first game is where he took his 7for the other day, which only leaves Kabir vs Jones for the final slot. Kabir might get more out of conditions at the Wanderers if they're like last week, but I'd like to see Jones given a go at some point. I think the rest of your side is spot on.superkingdave said:
chris.hinton
International Captain
Good to see Kabir Ali, Kevin Pitersen and Ian bell doing well in that Warm Up game... Solanki did not so he might find himself out of the team
Marc i am never bias
Marc i am never bias
Neil Pickup
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And I'm not Ginger, either.chris.hinton said:
chris.hinton
International Captain
Funny neil i like your Humour
I think Kabir Ali Should be in the one day team Full time?
I think Kabir Ali Should be in the one day team Full time?
Marius
International Debutant
http://rsa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat.../2005/JAN/170295_RSAENG2004-05_28JAN2005.html
Pietersen says abuse is 'water off a duck's back'
Cricinfo staff
January 28, 2005
Kevin Pietersen has said that he fully expects to be verbally abused throughout the one-day series in South Africa, but that the prospect doesn't bother him at all.
Pietersen, who was born in Pietermaritzburg in 1980, but moved to England to further his cricket career, smacked 97 in England's six-wicket win over South Africa A at Kimberley to get his tour off to a flying start.
"I knew I was going to cop a lot of stick but it will be like water off a duck's back," Pietersen told reporters ahead of Sunday's opening one-dayer. "I expected stick at the start of the innings, and I'm sure it will carry on through the whole series. But I just sat back and laughed at the opposition, with their swearing and 'traitor' remarks ... some of them can hardly speak English."
Those comments were hardly aimed at calming local hostility, and he went on to explain that he was becoming more English all the time. "I've been in England for four years and I've copped it for being South African - but my affiliation is definitely with England. In fact, I'm starting to speak too much like Darren Gough."
Although his move to England might not have gone down well in South African cricket circles, Pietersen said that his family supported his decision. "My family are thrilled to bits and back me 100%," he explained. "They back me and they back England. My mum, being English, has always supported England and I view myself as English.
"In fact, on the last day of this tour I'm going to get one of Gough's tattoos with three lions and my number underneath it. That's not a Christmas present - it's with you for the rest of your life, so no-one can take it away from me and say I'm not English."
© Cricinfo
"Some of them could hardly speak English". So what? Does that make them stupid? So Pietersen is a racist, as well as a traitor. I really don't mind too much when a guy leaves SA to play for another country, but when they have this kind of disgusting attitude, and badmouth the country, it gets my goat. We don't want guys like you playing for South Africa. "I've always considered myself English" What rubbish. I think I hate Pietersen more than I hate Clyde Rathbone now. Because I hate him so much he's probably going to score bucketloads of runs against us. If you hear about a crazed spectator that tried to kill Kevin Pietersen on Sunday at the Wanderers, it will probably have been me.
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Pietersen says abuse is 'water off a duck's back'
Cricinfo staff
January 28, 2005
Kevin Pietersen has said that he fully expects to be verbally abused throughout the one-day series in South Africa, but that the prospect doesn't bother him at all.
Pietersen, who was born in Pietermaritzburg in 1980, but moved to England to further his cricket career, smacked 97 in England's six-wicket win over South Africa A at Kimberley to get his tour off to a flying start.
"I knew I was going to cop a lot of stick but it will be like water off a duck's back," Pietersen told reporters ahead of Sunday's opening one-dayer. "I expected stick at the start of the innings, and I'm sure it will carry on through the whole series. But I just sat back and laughed at the opposition, with their swearing and 'traitor' remarks ... some of them can hardly speak English."
Those comments were hardly aimed at calming local hostility, and he went on to explain that he was becoming more English all the time. "I've been in England for four years and I've copped it for being South African - but my affiliation is definitely with England. In fact, I'm starting to speak too much like Darren Gough."
Although his move to England might not have gone down well in South African cricket circles, Pietersen said that his family supported his decision. "My family are thrilled to bits and back me 100%," he explained. "They back me and they back England. My mum, being English, has always supported England and I view myself as English.
"In fact, on the last day of this tour I'm going to get one of Gough's tattoos with three lions and my number underneath it. That's not a Christmas present - it's with you for the rest of your life, so no-one can take it away from me and say I'm not English."
© Cricinfo
"Some of them could hardly speak English". So what? Does that make them stupid? So Pietersen is a racist, as well as a traitor. I really don't mind too much when a guy leaves SA to play for another country, but when they have this kind of disgusting attitude, and badmouth the country, it gets my goat. We don't want guys like you playing for South Africa. "I've always considered myself English" What rubbish. I think I hate Pietersen more than I hate Clyde Rathbone now. Because I hate him so much he's probably going to score bucketloads of runs against us. If you hear about a crazed spectator that tried to kill Kevin Pietersen on Sunday at the Wanderers, it will probably have been me.
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twctopcat
International Regular
I think he meant every other word was f **k or c **t etc etc. I don't see how the comments were racist or anything, apparently nel speaks sod all english on the pitch, does that make me racist?? Stop being so bitter that he is playing for england and sa that's what i say.
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Ha Ha, not the best comments for harmony between the sides, but amusing none the less
BoyBrumby
Englishman
An olive-branch Pietersen style! 
In his defence, I have to say that when I've actually heard him speak on telly he does have quite a dry sense of humour which is possibly hard to detect when just reading the words. I would certainly never accuse him of being self-deprecating tho!
A couple of decent ODI scores & he'll be promoted from "Pietersen" to "Our Kev"!
In his defence, I have to say that when I've actually heard him speak on telly he does have quite a dry sense of humour which is possibly hard to detect when just reading the words. I would certainly never accuse him of being self-deprecating tho!
A couple of decent ODI scores & he'll be promoted from "Pietersen" to "Our Kev"!
SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
Its not racist. He's just trying to wind up the SA players and supporters. Which i think he has quite brilliently 
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yep, just when you thought gob****e Smith had gotten some small remnant of composure back...SpaceMonkey said:Its not racist. He's just trying to wind up the SA players and supporters. Which i think he has quite brilliently
Swervy
International Captain
and so how is that racist again...I keep reading it, and I just dont see it i am afraid.Marius said:http://rsa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat.../2005/JAN/170295_RSAENG2004-05_28JAN2005.html
"Some of them could hardly speak English". So what? Does that make them stupid? So Pietersen is a racist, as well as a traitor. I really don't mind too much when a guy leaves SA to play for another country, but when they have this kind of disgusting attitude, and badmouth the country, it gets my goat. We don't want guys like you playing for South Africa. "I've always considered myself English" What rubbish. I think I hate Pietersen more than I hate Clyde Rathbone now. Because I hate him so much he's probably going to score bucketloads of runs against us. If you hear about a crazed spectator that tried to kill Kevin Pietersen on Sunday at the Wanderers, it will probably have been me.
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i think you need to get over it mate
Langeveldt
Soutie
Fully agreed Marius.. He's just a bad mouthing "Sout Piel" with nothing better to do than p*ss people off.. Its not a racial thing though, its a character thing
Doubtlessly a Fine cricketer, but he's developing into a really lame excuse for a person.. Anyone who leaves a team, and then bad mouths it from thousands of miles away, and then comes home and starts bad mouthing the locals deserves all the abuse he can get.. Its so weak thats what gets me.. I don't care if its and English, South African, Kiwi, Aussie, whoever who is doing it.. It's just a weak backstabbing attitude.. I hope Nel makes him bleed, and teaches him a few nice Afrikaans words..
"Some of them could hardly speak English" - Why should they? What a tit.. You aren't in England any more Kevin...
Doubtlessly a Fine cricketer, but he's developing into a really lame excuse for a person.. Anyone who leaves a team, and then bad mouths it from thousands of miles away, and then comes home and starts bad mouthing the locals deserves all the abuse he can get.. Its so weak thats what gets me.. I don't care if its and English, South African, Kiwi, Aussie, whoever who is doing it.. It's just a weak backstabbing attitude.. I hope Nel makes him bleed, and teaches him a few nice Afrikaans words..
"Some of them could hardly speak English" - Why should they? What a tit.. You aren't in England any more Kevin...
