***Official*** England in Pakistan

[wpdavid]

A little trip down Memory Lane .....


http://www.cricketweb.net/article.php?CategoryIDAuto=3&NewsIDAuto=866

 

[luckyeddie]

Good idea, David.

The day the lights came on

 

[wpdavid]

Good idea, David.

The day the lights came on

Great minds ...

I must admit I missed your article at the time, which is always a shame. What made you write about the Karachi test back in February?

 

[luckyeddie]

Great minds ...

I must admit I missed your article at the time, which is always a shame. What made you write about the Karachi test back in February?

I didn't.

I wrote it a year or so before that, and it was just lying around. When we had a collective effort to post some write-ups on 'great tests' it seemed logical to include it.

A fascinating game with an unlikely outcome, but the only reason it was a classic was the historical significance.

 

[wpdavid]

I didn't.

I wrote it a year or so before that, and it was just lying around. When we had a collective effort to post some write-ups on 'great tests' it seemed logical to include it.

A fascinating game with an unlikely outcome, but the only reason it was a classic was the historical significance.

Yup. Day 5 was great, but that's about it.

You must remember some of the tests in the 60's, with Knott missing out on a 100 because of the riots. Was Dexter's tour before your time?

 

[luckyeddie]

Yup. Day 5 was great, but that's about it.

You must remember some of the tests in the 60's, with Knott missing out on a 100 because of the riots. Was Dexter's tour before your time?

I do indeed, although the major problem was the lack of television coverage from the overseas tours. We'd get news coverage and that was it. I was at school studying for my 'O' levels but I remember the Karachi test (Knotty getting 90-odd). My favourite player at that time was Olly - and he got a hundred on the first day.

The other one was definitely before my time - I was living in Malaysia (still called Malaya at the time). I didn't get into cricket until 1965 and the Saffers.

 

[wpdavid]

I do indeed, although the major problem was the lack of television coverage from the overseas tours. We'd get news coverage and that was it. I was at school studying for my 'O' levels but I remember the Karachi test (Knotty getting 90-odd). My favourite player at that time was Olly - and he got a hundred on the first day.

The other one was definitely before my time - I was living in Malaysia (still called Malaya at the time). I didn't get into cricket until 1965 and the Saffers.

Milburn was a few years before my time, but I can well imagine how he would be a favourite from what I've read. Great shame how his career finished.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. BFN.

 

[Pratters]

This is quite bizarre:

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/pakveng/content/story/224015.html

I don't see how Vaughan can justify using the tactic since it's blatantly against the laws of the game, unlike the sub-fielder issue which was a bit of a grey area. I'll be astonished if he does use this in a Test match (as he says he might), even more astonished if he gets away with it.

What I find amazing is the umpires in the game did not call the balls on which he attempted the silly moves dead. Shows they didnt read the law books properly or dont remember them that well.

 

[Pratters]

Apparently the English squad are all growing taches in Pakistan to relieve the boredom! Wonder if they'll last to the 1st test? From the beeb's website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4406928.stm

Last words of the article:

New Zealand lost the Twenty20 international earlier this year, and Spain defeated Australia in the tennis five years ago.

Surely England dont want to lose do they? I thought cricketers were superstitious!

 

[SpaceMonkey]

What I find amazing is the umpires in the game did not call the balls on which he attempted the silly moves dead. Shows they didnt read the law books properly or dont remember them that well.

or probably didnt care as it was only a tour match.

 

[marc71178]

so then what should england realistically hope to achieve.

Realistically a series win is all they're hoping for I'd imagine.

 

[marc71178]

What I find amazing is the umpires in the game did not call the balls on which he attempted the silly moves dead. Shows they didnt read the law books properly or dont remember them that well.

Or maybe Neil was right and his movement was a fraction later than being said?

Has anyone actually seen footage of it?

 

[Pratters]

or probably didnt care as it was only a tour match.

A tour match would mean you ignore the rules? Thats no logic.

It was more like their incompetency was highlighted.

 

[Pratters]

Or maybe Neil was right and his movement was a fraction later than being said?

Has anyone actually seen footage of it?

Neil was playing the DA giving the only possible reason for the umpires not calling it dead.

But how could you move from slip to leg-slip so fast soon after the ball hits the bat?

 

[marc71178]

Like I say - has anyone actually seen the footage or are we relying on the press (who have to find something to write about to justify them being sent out there and lets face it, there wasn't much actual play worth reporting)

The umpires were there and didn't deem it worthy of note.

 

[superkingdave]

"Law 41 states in clause seven: “Any significant movement by any fielder after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker is unfair.” “Significant movement” is then defined as follows: “For close fielders, anything other than minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker is significant.” In the outfield, players are permitted to move in, but anything other than slight movement off line or away from the batsman is also considered significant."

The rules are quite strict in this area, Vaughan would be wise not to bother trying

 

[Scaly piscine]

Looks like Colly is going to be picked ahead of Bell, with Bell an outside chance of playing if England decide they don't need Hoggard.

 

[chaminda_00]

Interesting move playing Colly, as that would move KP up to 4, as they want to play Colly at 5. Also for some reason they wnt to play Udal over London. Udal might be in better form, but you would think they would try and blood the youngster if he meant to England next long term spinner.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Loudon, is, if any sanity is in our heirachy, not our long term spinner. I agree I'm not sure about the Collingwood move but playing Udal to me is the sound move.

 

[chaminda_00]

isn't Udal like 30odd though, surely your better off looking long term, then a short term fix like Udal.