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***Official*** England in Pakistan
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Scaly piscine
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Was that one of your only 2 warm-up matches? No I don't think so.andyc said:
Tom Halsey
International Coach
There's a difference there. This is a warm-up match where we need our batters to get practice - not wait around for one to seam a foot and be back in the hutch. In a Test match, it doesn't really matter as long as you win, and you had it your own way too (Clarke 6/9). The pitches should be nearer to the Test pitches so we can get some practice.
Beleg
International Regular
How do you know what type of test pitch they are going to prepare?
These games aren't played only to provide the touring team with 'practice'. That can be well achieved under the tutelage of their own coaches. These games are a good way to gauge the strengths and weeknesses of the tourists and of your own upcoming players under varible conditions.
Afterall, If Mohammad Asif can take a seven-fer than the Pakistan management might find itself questioning the wisdom of playing three spinners on a pitch which offers nothing to the fasties apart from the first morning and take steps accordingly.
Really, some of you Englishmen are turning into quite the whinners.
These games aren't played only to provide the touring team with 'practice'. That can be well achieved under the tutelage of their own coaches. These games are a good way to gauge the strengths and weeknesses of the tourists and of your own upcoming players under varible conditions.
Afterall, If Mohammad Asif can take a seven-fer than the Pakistan management might find itself questioning the wisdom of playing three spinners on a pitch which offers nothing to the fasties apart from the first morning and take steps accordingly.
Really, some of you Englishmen are turning into quite the whinners.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Not really. Infact Andy reminded me how much the Aussies moaned after the India game. You can't have it both ways.social said:
Well perhaps you should wait to see what happens in the test matches first? After all, England haven't lost a match on tour yetsocial said:
But what the hell, never miss a chance to pile into a team with which you seem to have a strangely addictive fascination to finding a way to criticise.
Beleg
International Regular
What has this got to do with the issues I have highlighted in my post. Talk about red herrings...
But if you want it, I'll bite...
You had the same set of players last time too, didn't you? The pitches are going to be the same, aren't they? History is sure to repeat itself, isn't it?
England's performance on their last tour to Pakistan was ordinary apart from the last day of the last test match. Don't believe me? Check out the score-cards yourself. Now If you are still depending on mother luck to win you a game with ten balls to spare than that's your prerogative - just don't be upset when people laugh and point fingers at you.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, that is quite a comical post - only 5 players have survived from England's last tour.Beleg said:
Beleg
International Regular
What is so 'extra-ordinary' about winning a test series 1-0 when the series was decided in the last five minutes of the tour?
What you provided wasn't 'evidence'. Circular arguements with an unknown variable is not evidence. Unless you are clairvoyant or have contacts high up in the Pakistan camp, you cannot prove how the pitch is going to pan out. You can only speculate.
Frankly on that tour securing a draw would have been an excellent result. And I don't really see what "winning in the last five minutes" has got to do with anything. All it says it that Pakistan would have been saved by time. For that to be described as an ordinary performance would require an assessment that Pakistan were a terrible team.Beleg said:
Of course it's evidence. Not conclusive evidence or even proof, but evidence all the same.Beleg said:
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luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
It was England's first series victory in Pakistan.Beleg said:
It was the first time Pakistan had lost to ANYONE in Karachi
It was unique inasmuch as the blatant timewasting employed by Pakistan in the last hour was not permitted to succeed.
