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***Official*** England in Pakistan
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aussie
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for Prior to play in the OD team he would have to open the batting IMO, since if my memroy is right thats where he has had all his success with sussex in domestic OD competitions, But the problem their is that the england camp wont split from Tres & Strauss at the top of the order added to the fact that Jones is a favourite. So if Prior is going to play a lot has to go in his favour.Gloucefan said:
Scaly piscine
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I can just see it now, an all-caught-in-the-deep hattrick with 20 overs left...aussie said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
You should try seeing something positively for a change. Having three players in our middle order capable of scoring at a strike rate of 200 is a cause for optimism. Until the experiment fails, don't condemn it. Otherwise you just look silly if it succeeds.Scaly piscine said:
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Atleast one of them has to fire every game, not the same one of course. It wouldn't be too bad if they all failed once in a while. Plus, I think you English fans under-estimate Freddie. Sure he threw away his wicket a lot in these tests, but that has to be due to exhaustion. I love Freddie, only English player I love, and I felt bad when he went for a duck in the last test, tbh.Scaly piscine said:
Scaly piscine
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I personally think people are overestimating Blackwell with the bat, his batting record for England is awful and him firing with the bat happened once in 19 innings. He should bat below Geraint and expect to play as a bowler more than anything.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Exactly. Old habit of the English. One bad series, take it out on players who performed good enough consistently. I guess every team does that though.marc71178 said:
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Thee's no arguing about his track record for England with the bat, and I put him after Jones as well. However, his record for Somerst does suggest he has something - if it was so easy slogging county attacks everyone would be doing it - and I'm happy enough to see him get another chance. FWIW I don't think his bowling is any worse than the likes of Swann.Scaly piscine said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
My thoughts exactly - his bowling is probably good enough to justify his place in the side in place of Giles anyway, and if he can get his batting firing at international level there's no doubt he could become a real danger. You only have to see him in full flow at county level to know there's very few men who can strike a cricket ball like him. He's become a more mature, confident and responsible player since taking on the Somerset captaincy - the only thing that remains for him to do is move up the order from 6 to 4 for Somerset, as he should be doing. I, for one, think he might surprise a few people this series.wpdavid said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
It's now confirmed that Vaughan will be replaced by Bell in the ODIs because of his dodgy knee, with Tres as captain. That means England are probably going to be missing four of their first-choice lineup this series - Vaughan, Giles, Tremlett and Simon Jones. Big test for those who step into their places.
Interestingly, I wonder what would happen should Bell happen to go in at 3 and hit a hundred. There's no obvious free spot in the England ODI lineup - but there's no doubt as to who their worst ODI batsman is........
Interestingly, I wonder what would happen should Bell happen to go in at 3 and hit a hundred. There's no obvious free spot in the England ODI lineup - but there's no doubt as to who their worst ODI batsman is........
andyc
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I don't think Vaughan deserves a spot in the ODI line-up at all. Trescothick showed in the tests that he was a competent enough captain and I think he could easily captain the one day side and allow a much better batsman to take his place. Then again, I've not really paid all that much attention to English cricket so I could be wrongBarney Rubble said:It's now confirmed that Vaughan will be replaced by Bell in the ODIs because of his dodgy knee, with Tres as captain. That means England are probably going to be missing four of their first-choice lineup this series - Vaughan, Giles, Tremlett and Simon Jones. Big test for those who step into their places.
Interestingly, I wonder what would happen should Bell happen to go in at 3 and hit a hundred. There's no obvious free spot in the England ODI lineup - but there's no doubt as to who their worst ODI batsman is........
Barney Rubble
International Coach
I'm not saying pick him ahead of Giles, I'm saying that if Giles can't play, and having seen how badly Udal did in the Tests, it's probably worth playing him ahead of the likes of Batty, Swann etc because the differences in bowling ability aren't great, and if he should happen to get his batting sorted at this level he'll be a big asset. I'd not pick him if Giles is fit - but the point is, there's a lack of options behind Giles and he's as good as any.marc71178 said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
I think's it's fair enough to assume he'd be there or thereabouts - he did enough last summer to be first in line when Gough pulled out, he just happened to get injured at the same time. I reckon he'd probably be scraping in ahead of Plunkett and Anderson if he was fit. Probably was pushing it a little to call him first-choice, though, yes.marc71178 said: