Sorry, sure I not what you mean regarding Kallis bowling, his very reluctant and a average (statistics) based cricketer, he would not have bowled much in Pakistan but when it comes to batting Kallis has never been found wanting and does not ***** foot out of that.marc71178 said:
Meh, rather someone new gets a chance, but knowing England they'll pick bloody Kabir Ali and Solanki (who are only still near the side because of 'positive' racial discrimination as far as I'm concerned, Solanki is nearly 30 and useless and Kabir Ali just has zero potential - no height, no pace just low trajectory cannon fodder like Gough has become).aussie said:
yep, but even though Vaughan doesn't have such a great ODI record without him englands batting will look a bit wably. With regards to Ali i dont think we can hide him from playing in this series, but hopefully Prior plays ahead of Solanki.Scaly piscine said:
Hopefully Vaughan will play in the ODIs? What have you been smoking? I'd rather he was injured, then maybe Bell will get the chance he's now merited. At least Bell might get some runs.aussie said:
i'm quite fine midn youBarney Rubble said:
, its just that with Strauss gone & if Vaughan cant make even though he is not that great of an ODI player added to the fact that he may not be at his best one would get worried about england top order, but then again you may be right about Bell he is in form & may well & score runs..
Id put Plunkett in for Giles, 3 main bowlers isnt enough for me. Giles is very hit and miss in one dayers. We cant carry a 5th bowler (made from Collingwood / Bell etc) AND Giles in the same team. Id also like Joyce / Cook / Shah to be in and around the team. They're the 3 that will most likely be knocking on the England test team in the future and it will be nice to get them involved early.Barney Rubble said:
ah yes barney the side their for the 1st ODI is perfect, i should have thought of that. But with regards to a 1st choice England side Simon Jones got to be in their in front of plunks for now & i might be alone on this view for now but if Blackwell can do well in Pakistan wellll he'd make the perfect super sub IMOBarney Rubble said:
I wouldn't hold out too much hope. Aside from his fielding, Bell is probably even less suited to ODI cricket than Vaughan is.aussie said:i'm quite fine midn you
Probably a mark too high for Tres, whose impressive average hides 5 innings out of 6 for about 100 runs. 2 marks too high for Vaughan, who was lucky to get anywhere near 58 in Lahore and then threw it away criminally. A bit high for Fred too - I'd give him 7 for his bowling and 3 for his batting, so an average of 5.Neil Pickup said:
I've found it interesting how Tres' relative performances in tests and ODI's have swapped over the years. 4 years ago I'd have said he was a better ODI than test batsman. Over the last 18 months, he's been great in tests but not contributed much that I can remember in ODI's (apart from a couple of good knocks in the ICC, admittedly). I almost get the impression that he's bored with the oneday version of the game.Neil Pickup said:
But thats the problem. Maybe more with the way England use him rather than himself.marc71178 said:
