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***Official*** England in Pakistan

Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
social said:
One big eye-opener for me in this game is the realisation of how far Jimmy Anderson's stock has fallen.

Whilst Plunkett did well in the lead-up game and has taken a wicket here, he is barely more than medium pace and hasnt moved a ball off the straight and narrow.

Obviously, he has ability but he looks well short of Anderson's quality (that I remember anyhow) at present.
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You obviously didn't see Anderson in SA. A typical over:

89.1 Anderson to Boucher, wide: one run, poorly directed delivery, Jones
diving to his left
89.1 Anderson to Gibbs, wide: no run, another wide on the leg side bring
up the 300
89.1 Anderson to Gibbs, no run, wide outside off
89.2 Anderson to Gibbs, two runs, deciding to take 2 runs to guided to
third man
89.3 Anderson to Gibbs, wide: no run, very wide outside off
89.3 Anderson to Gibbs, no run, back of a length, Gibbs pushing it back
down the wicket
89.4 Anderson to Gibbs, one run, played to Thorpe at deep mid wicket
89.5 Anderson to Boucher, OUT: chasing after a wide one, hitting the
ball straight to Strauss at point

South Africa 304/6, Partnership of 120
MV Boucher c Strauss b Anderson 64 (90b 11x4 0x6)
HH Gibbs 135* (268b 20x4) JM Anderson 20.5-3-84-1 (4w)

89.6 Anderson to Pollock, no run

Not excatly top class.
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
pakster said:
Got to agree here. Anderson would have been a much better bet and it was surprising to see plunket get the nod ahead of him, especially considering anderson seems to have a physcological edge over some of the pak batsmen.
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Psychological edge? The only psychological edge as far as Anderson's concerned is the knife-edge his confidence teeters on every time he runs in to bowl. One boundary and he's shot to pieces. Get his confidence up, and he'll do a good job - but right now he's still a bit of a gamble. Even more so than the uncapped Plunkett.
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
ClownSymonds said:
Yeah, probably because he's going against Plunkett. England should have brought a front-line bowler on to face him first up.
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Yeah, they probably should. I'd wager Flintoff will be on before too long.

EDIT: Here he is.
 
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pakster

U19 12th Man
Barney Rubble said:
Psychological edge? The only psychological edge as far as Anderson's concerned is the knife-edge his confidence teeters on every time he runs in to bowl. One boundary and he's shot to pieces. Get his confidence up, and he'll do a good job - but right now he's still a bit of a gamble. Even more so than the uncapped Plunkett.
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Rubbish. He's easily a better choice than Plunket. Anderson pretty much ripped through the pak lineup in the WC - theres your psychological edge.
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
pakster said:
Rubbish. He's easily a better choice than Plunket. Anderson pretty much ripped through the pak lineup in the WC - theres your psychological edge.
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The World Cup? Two and a half years ago? In a different format of the game? Since when the man has become a shadow of the bowler he used to be?

Don't judge your opinion of Anderson on what you saw in the World Cup. He's not the same bowler now. He's more line and length, less wicket-ball/four-ball. He gets less swing, but a little more movement off the pitch. He's more accurate, but has probably lost an mph or two in pace. At least, that's all true from what I saw last season.
 
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pakster

U19 12th Man
Barney Rubble said:
The World Cup? Two and a half years ago? In a different format of the game? Since when the man has become a shadow of the bowler he used to be?

Don't judge your opinion of Anderson on what you saw in the World Cup. He's not the same bowler now. He's more line and length, less wicket-ball/four-ball. He gets less swing, but a little more movement off the pitch. He's more accurate, but has probably lost an mph or two in pace. At least, that's all true from what I saw last season.
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Look, I know Andersons no Simon Jones, heck - he's no Abdur Razzaq...but surely he's a better choice than plunket. Bowlers like anderson will get hit around, but they will also produce wicket taking deliveries. I dont see plunket getting many in this match.
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
pakster said:
Look, I know Andersons no Simon Jones, heck - he's no Abdur Razzaq...but surely he's a better choice than plunket. Bowlers like anderson will get hit around, but they will also produce wicket taking deliveries. I dont see plunket getting many in this match.
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You're missing my point - Anderson isn't the type to get hit around and then produce a wicket from nowhere any more. He's more bog-standard right-arm away-swing, and we've got that already. Plus he can't bat.
 
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