***Official*** England in Pakistan

[ClownSymonds]

TEST -
Kapil Dev - 434, Anil Kumble - 465 ( Total - 899)

Harbhajan Singh - 205, Anil Kumble 465 (Total - 670)

ODIs -

Kumble - 326, Srinath - 315 (Total - 641) (apparently that is more than the Mcgrath/Warne)

Oh. I didn't know Singh and Kumble had over 600 between them. I wasn't considering the retired players though.

 

[Shoaib]

TEST -
Kapil Dev - 434, Anil Kumble - 465 ( Total - 899)

Harbhajan Singh - 205, Anil Kumble 465 (Total - 670)

ODIs -

Kumble - 326, Srinath - 315 (Total - 641) (apparently that is more than the Mcgrath/Warne)

|Thats one of the best jokes ever on CW forum.U're mentioning the sum of no. of wickets that those respective bowlers took in their individual careers as taken as pairs.ClownSymonds was pretty right that no indian pair has been able to take 600 wickets.|If we start considering things like u've done,no one can beat legendary 2Ws.

 

[Sanz]

|Thats one of the best jokes ever on CW forum.U're mentioning the sum of no. of wickets that those respective bowlers took in their individual careers as taken as pairs.ClownSymonds was pretty right that no indian pair has been able to take 600 wickets.|If we start considering things like u've done,no one can beat legendary 2Ws.

I am happy that I was able to amuse you. Unfortunately for you 'clownsymonds' does agree on Kumble & Harbhajan (670), Kumble & Srinath (700).

And no Akram & Waqar (or any other pakistan pair) dont have more test wickets than Kapil & Kumble. That is not to diminish Akram/Waqar in any way because I know that I have more respect for them than you will every have for any cricketer.

 

[sheerindianspeed]

LE,its conspiracy in the sense that the chuckers from other countries r not reported,only our bowlers r always targetted..

They are not reported because they are NOT PICKED up by the selectors to play for national team!!

Pakistan selectors keep on encouraging and picking up dodgy bowlers.In past it use to be Junaid Zia and Riaz Afridi, and now they have chuckers in Shabbir and Malik in the team.

I think its not enough to just ban a bowler from participating in further matches, a team that has been found playing with chucker should be punished.I recommend the following measures,

--- The result of the match should be reversed in the favor of team that was the victim of chuckers.

--- If a country continue to pick chuckers for test matches every now and then then the ICC should take measures and should appoint an Independent selection committe (either the selectors being from different countries or from neighbouring country) that will make sure that the team doesn't go into test matches with chuckers.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

They are not reported because they are NOT PICKED up by the selectors to play for national team!!

Pakistan selectors keep on encouraging and picking up dodgy bowlers.In past it use to be Junaid Zia and Riaz Afridi, and now they have chuckers in Shabbir and Malik in the team.

I think its not enough to just ban a bowler from participating in further matches, a team that has been found playing with chucker should be punished.I recommend the following measures,

--- The result of the match should be reversed in the favor of team that was the victim of chuckers.

--- If a country continue to pick chuckers for test matches every now and then then the ICC should take measures and should appoint an Independent selection committe (either the selectors being from different countries or from neighbouring country) that will make sure that the team doesn't go into test matches with chuckers.

Despite making a reasonable original point, your suggested methods of punishment are ridiculous at best.

 

[luckyeddie]

They are not reported because they are NOT PICKED up by the selectors to play for national team!!

Pakistan selectors keep on encouraging and picking up dodgy bowlers.In past it use to be Junaid Zia and Riaz Afridi, and now they have chuckers in Shabbir and Malik in the team.

I think its not enough to just ban a bowler from participating in further matches, a team that has been found playing with chucker should be punished.I recommend the following measures,

--- The result of the match should be reversed in the favor of team that was the victim of chuckers.

--- If a country continue to pick chuckers for test matches every now and then then the ICC should take measures and should appoint an Independent selection committe (either the selectors being from different countries or from neighbouring country) that will make sure that the team doesn't go into test matches with chuckers.

Surprised that you haven't advocated burning anyone at the stake

 

[ClownSymonds]

I agree with that. Chucking is cheating, and no team is forced to give an equal opportunity in selection to bowlers who chuck. The ICC's current policy is obviously not doing enough to control the problem, so responsibility has to be taken by the team selectors.

 

[marc71178]

Does this stupid rule over not appealing just cover the bowler? If not Geraint could be fined a small nation's national debt with the number of times he just throws the ball in the air after he 'catches' it.

Now that is a separate rule though for Geraint.

He is not celebrating a wicket at all, just the fact that he's caught the ball - something the ICC have recognised as being worthy of celebration without censure.

 

[marc71178]

I agree with that. Chucking is cheating, and no team is forced to give an equal opportunity in selection to bowlers who chuck. The ICC's current policy is obviously not doing enough to control the problem, so responsibility has to be taken by the team selectors.

OK, and who is going to police these National selectors then since the only body above them is the ICC and you've just said that they're ineffective?

 

[Armadillo]

--- If a country continue to pick chuckers for test matches every now and then then the ICC should take measures and should appoint an Independent selection committe (either the selectors being from different countries or from neighbouring country) that will make sure that the team doesn't go into test matches with chuckers.

Hold on, are you suggesting that India pick Pakistan's team!!

 

[Jamee999]

Or Australia selecting England's team

G'day mates, here is the England Team to face Australia at the GABBA tomorrow, first match of the Ashes.

Mark Ramprakash
Ed Smith
Rikki Clarke

 

[pakster]

Random Comment, but doesnt Gerraint Jones strike you as the type of guy who eats peanut butter?

 

[Barney Rubble]

Random Comment, but doesnt Gerraint Jones strike you as the type of guy who eats peanut butter?

What?

*backs away slowly*

 

[Barney Rubble]

Or Australia selecting England's team

G'day mates, here is the England Team to face Australia at the GABBA tomorrow, first match of the Ashes.

Mark Ramprakash
Ed Smith
Rikki Clarke

Don't forget Usman Afzaal, he's an Aussie fan favourite.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Or Australia selecting England's team

G'day mates, here is the England Team to face Australia at the GABBA tomorrow, first match of the Ashes.

Mark Ramprakash
Ed Smith
Rikki Clarke

Psssht.. there are worse players than that in England. Australia need all the help they can get.

 

[pakster]

What?

*backs away slowly*

You know not of which you speak. I have never been so sure of anything in my life, Gerraint Jones eats peanut butter...call it a hunch.

 

[pakster]

Hold on, are you suggesting that India pick Pakistan's team!!

Actually, that might make things a bit more even

 

[Xuhaib]

orignally posted by Armadillo
Has anyone apart from myself noticed that when Shoaib Akhtar bowls his effort ball/fast yorker his action changes in a big way. I could pick his effort ball before he bowled it every time, I'm surprised the England players were so surprised whenever he sent down a fast yorker.

Yea i ve noticed it aswell but it can only be noticed from behind so thts why it has not been picked by the english batsman or any other batsman.

 

[Pratters]

It is not the fault of the bowlers that they have come through the ranks to come to international cricket when their actions must have been rectified much earlier. I feel sad for the young bowlers who get destroyed morally as a result of this.

Another aspect is whether the home teams can be fined if they bring on sch bowlers to international arena? If some thing like this is implemented, it can mean lesser suspect bowlers coming through the ranks as the home board may become more vigilant. But it would also mean bowlers who are on borderline as regards to suspect action facing the possibility of being shunned undeservedly.

Regarding the result of a match being changed or some thing on those lines because a player or two have suspect action in a match - umpires can disallow bowlers with suspect action while the match is on can they not? If they do not follow that line and go for a safer approach of reporting to the referee (I am not sure of all the rules on this) its not the home team's fault that they tried and won the match.

 

[steds]

Or Australia selecting England's team

G'day mates, here is the England Team to face Australia at the GABBA tomorrow, first match of the Ashes.

Mark Ramprakash
Ed Smith
Rikki Clarke

Nah. If they wanted a REALLY bad team, it'd just be the Yorkshire team, with a couple of random Derbyshire players instead of the overseas players