***Official*** England in Pakistan

[Buddhmaster]

I noticed this a couple of years ago, against I think New Zealand and now i've noticed it again. Shabbir is a chucker.

 

[Jono]

Well the ICC noticed it, and forced him to change his action. Apparently its under the 15 degree limit now, but it still does look extremely dubious. *shrugs*

 

[Buddhmaster]

I wouldn't wanna be given out 3 balls from a double century from a ball bowled by someone with a "dubious" action. I don't think he's really corrected anything, it looks just as bad, if not more obvious

 

[Slow Love™]

Asad Rauf

Who on these boards said that we shouldn't have neutral umpires? That decision is making a case for neutral third umpires.

He's got previous

To be fair, the previous mistake you cite penalized Pakistan, rather than favouring them.

But in essence, I agree - why the hell aren't third umpires from neutral countries? I don't see why an exception should be made to how the field umpires are considered. It obviously must come down to convenience, but I don't think it's a very tenable situation if you're going to be so committed to fielding neutral umpires in every other respect.

 

[Slow Love™]

I'm really interested in how Bell goes this innings - something substantial just might be required from him, and a good score to complement his decent effort in the first innings could really be the making of him, because there is going to be a fair degree of pressure on the Englishmen here - regardless of the fact that the total doesn't look especially imposing.

England should really win this, no problems, but if Pakistan can get a couple early, they'd have to have a sniff. Considering that England is IMO comfortably the better team in this contest all-up, I don't think Pakistan have done too poorly to be going into the last day with this situation.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Well the ICC noticed it, and forced him to change his action. Apparently its under the 15 degree limit now, but it still does look extremely dubious. *shrugs*

No. It's under the 15 degree limit in non-match situations. There's every likelihood that he's still chucking. That said, I'm not going to judge until I see him again, but earlier this year he had the most horrific bent elbow I've seen in a long time. It was extremely blatant.

They say that if he's warned again, he could face a 2-year (?) ban.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Mo Akram is backing Pak (at last somebody is). Anyone else? I think we'll just scrape through with 7 or 8 down.

 

[Shoaib]

I'd like to ask the Pakistani people where the hell Yasir Hameed is? He looked pretty promising to me when I saw him play here last year.

He can show good performance,but only against Bangladesh.

 

[Shoaib]

I noticed this a couple of years ago, against I think New Zealand and now i've noticed it again. Shabbir is a chucker.

Yeah,every asian (pakistani in particular) who is a sign of danger for English & Australian batsmen is a chucker.Every current Pakistani bowler is a chucker just as Wasim & Waqar were ball temperers.

 

[aussie]

Inzamam shouldn't be over-aggressive but at least he should have had a 3rd slip IMO,twice in 2 balls Bell edged their..

 

[social]

I'm really interested in how Bell goes this innings - something substantial just might be required from him, and a good score to complement his decent effort in the first innings could really be the making of him, because there is going to be a fair degree of pressure on the Englishmen here - regardless of the fact that the total doesn't look especially imposing.

England should really win this, no problems, but if Pakistan can get a couple early, they'd have to have a sniff. Considering that England is IMO comfortably the better team in this contest all-up, I don't think Pakistan have done too poorly to be going into the last day with this situation.

Bell might go on to have a fruitful career but in the meantime he really has to sort his footwork out. Early on, he's like a statue to balls pitching off-stump and I can see a lot of catching practice for the world's slips cordons until he eradicates this fault.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Yeah,every asian (pakistani in particular) who is a sign of danger for English & Australian batsmen is a chucker.Every current Pakistani bowler is a chucker just as Wasim & Waqar were ball temperers.

Ermmm.....no. No-one said anything of the sort, you're just being an idiot again. Shabbir is clearly a chucker, the fact that he's Pakistani has nothing to do with it. You just have a persecution complex.

 

[Shoaib]

If Shabbir is a chucker,then what about McGrath who has more elbow flex than Shabbir?

 

[Barney Rubble]

If Shabbir is a chucker,then what about McGrath who has more elbow flex than Shabbir?

Where the hell did you get that idea from? The ICC certainly doesn't agree with you.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Yeah,every asian (pakistani in particular) who is a sign of danger for English & Australian batsmen is a chucker.Every current Pakistani bowler is a chucker just as Wasim & Waqar were ball temperers.

Yes, you're all cheats and chuckers because you're the wrong colour, that's the only reason anyone ever gets reported, it's becasue of colour, not because of anything else...

If it's all based on our blatant institutional racism, how come Liam's criticising him?

 

[Shoaib]

I've noticed McGrath is a chucker just as u people have noticed that Shabbir is a chucker.

 

[aussie]

I've noticed McGrath is a chucker just as u peoplle have notice that Shabbir is a chucker.

haha, well i think your in a minority when it comes to that view...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

If Shabbir is a chucker,then what about McGrath who has more elbow flex than Shabbir?

Excuse me? I'd take the Green-tinted shades off and purchase some real glasses if I were you.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Yeah,every asian (pakistani in particular) who is a sign of danger for English & Australian batsmen is a chucker.Every current Pakistani bowler is a chucker just as Wasim & Waqar were ball temperers.

Two questions:

1. Are you aware of what chucking is?
2. Have you ever actually seen Shabbir Ahmed bowl?

I expect affirmative answers for both questions, which leads me to a followup piece:

3. Are you properly sane?

I ask "properly" to simply express my utter disbelief that anyone could defend Shabbir Ahmed as having a legal action.

 

[Slow Love™]

Shabbir has impressed me, and the Butt knock was splendid .

I reckon England will scrape home 6 or 7 down.

Mo Akram is backing Pak (at last somebody is). Anyone else? I think we'll just scrape through with 7 or 8 down.

That English confidence is a fragile thing....

Seriously, I hope it's an exciting finish, although I kinda think England will wipe it off a little more comfortably.