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***Official*** England in Pakistan

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Barney Rubble said:
Collingwood apparently having words with the umps about the light at the moment, can't be too long before they call it a day.
don't know why, Tresco is looking glorious at the moment
 

Magrat Garlick

Rather Mad Witch
Barney Rubble said:
Well I'd say they'll give themselves absolute minimum five sessions to bowl Pakistan out, meaning it's more of a time thing than a runs thing - if they're still batting come mid-morning on Tuesday, they'll have around 650 on the board, and that'll be roughly when they'll declare, I'd say.
They've still scored at 3.81 an over. It's not THAT appalling a rate... :p
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Samuel_Vimes said:
They've still scored at 3.81 an over. It's not THAT appalling a rate... :p
OK, I'm confused. What was wrong with my post? I miscalculated how many they'd have by Tuesday or something, didn't I? :ph34r:
 

greg

International Debutant
Barney Rubble said:
OK, I'm confused. What was wrong with my post? I miscalculated how many they'd have by Tuesday or something, didn't I? :ph34r:
I'm confused. Seemed reasonable to me - although doubt they'll go on to 650
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Absolutely wonderful innings by Trescothick. Other than the LBW shout, he's done it with ease. He's in the best form of his career right now, and is making best use of it.
 

Magrat Garlick

Rather Mad Witch
Barney Rubble said:
OK, I'm confused. What was wrong with my post? I miscalculated how many they'd have by Tuesday or something, didn't I? :ph34r:
Nah, I think you're pretty much spot on. It wasn't to you really, just to those complaining about the rate.

:( Colly. Stick to ODIs, mate.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
And that's stumps, due to bad light, and the end of Day 2.

It couldn't have gone much more comprehensively England's way, really. :)
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Another good day for Eng.

Billy's howler taking on huge proportions now.

I'll be charitable and say that the Pakistani bowlers arent match-hardened and hope they improve as the series goes on. Unfortunately, it wasnt just the bowling, but fielding and running between wickets. Eng have been infinitely more professional.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Barney Rubble said:
Couldn't agree more - Bell is certainly back in the driving seat for when Vaughany comes back.
Based on one innings where the ball didn't do squat and he had all day to bat - and had several lucky escapes before making an earth-shattering 71. Oh let me guess, only Bell is allowed to attract a decent delivery - whereas Collingwood gets to bat in a no-win situation (yet again).
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
social said:
Another good day for Eng.

Billy's howler taking on huge proportions now.

I'll be charitable and say that the Pakistani bowlers arent match-hardened and hope they improve as the series goes on. Unfortunately, it wasnt just the bowling, but fielding and running between wickets. Eng have been infinitely more professional.
I agree, bad decision proving very crucial. I'll also agree the bowlers don't look 100% up to it and short of practice, but I still think there was some poor captaincy involved and whether a bowler is 'match-hardened' or not, the amount of no-balls was a disgrace. I'm sure the Pakistani fans on this forum would be livid.

Akhtar bowled well, Kaneria was unlucky but at the same time far from brilliant, and Shabbir was okay. Sami was poor despite one good ball which got him a wicket, same goes for Malik. The pitch had a lot to do with it no doubt, but Malik just kept feeding Trescothick down legside and Sami was doing the same, except to the off-side.

Definitely lots of improvement to come.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Scaly piscine said:
Based on one innings where the ball didn't do squat and he had all day to bat - and had several lucky escapes before making an earth-shattering 71. Oh let me guess, only Bell is allowed to attract a decent delivery - whereas Collingwood gets to bat in a no-win situation (yet again).
How predictable
 

greg

International Debutant
social said:
Another good day for Eng.

Billy's howler taking on huge proportions now.

I'll be charitable and say that the Pakistani bowlers arent match-hardened and hope they improve as the series goes on. Unfortunately, it wasnt just the bowling, but fielding and running between wickets. Eng have been infinitely more professional.
Well if Pakistan had caught their catches then the decision (good or bad - he was a long way forward and the ball turned pretty sharply) wouldn't have mattered.
 

greg

International Debutant
Scaly piscine said:
Based on one innings where the ball didn't do squat and he had all day to bat - and had several lucky escapes before making an earth-shattering 71. Oh let me guess, only Bell is allowed to attract a decent delivery - whereas Collingwood gets to bat in a no-win situation (yet again).
Keep up the good fight.
 

howardj

International Coach
Just goes to show that all these people who say that Pakistan are "unpredictible" (brilliant one day, horrible the next) are so far off the mark, and need to update their assessment. In my view, Pakistan are a pretty ordinary team, who don't have much heart.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
Man this thread is HUGE.

I hate Trescothick on the basic principle that I, being an opening batsman, wish I could bat with such little footwork and score so many runs. : P
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
superb day all-round for England, first cleaning up Pakistan now this splendid batting performance, must say well played to Ian Bell he looked real good much was said about him going into this test & i think this innings he showed his quality..
 

simmy

International Regular
Trescothick... is pure class. Never lets his side down. What a player!

He deserves all the success he has.
 

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