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tooextracool

International Coach
aussie said:
well i realised in PAK he was bowling in this pace but when he debuted in australia & during the 1st india/pak series in 2004 he was bowling 85mph & up..
hes only ever bowled the odd ball at 85+ mph. by and large hes been an 80 mph bowler. and as ive said a billion times in the past, exceptions to a general pattern almost never count towards anything.
 

pskov

International 12th Man
Apparently the most expensive tickets at the ground are around the equivilant of £50!!! The best seats at Lord's for the opening Ashes test were £54....
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Pratyush said:
To be fair to Pieterson, he should be kicked, whacked for playing such a stupid shot.
the ball was poor enough that it deserved to be given a whack at. anything marginally short on that wicket is a poor ball period.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
tooextracool said:
the ball was poor enough that it deserved to be given a whack at. anything marginally short on that wicket is a poor ball period.
Actually there have been loads of poor balls. Either you whack it if you are completely confident, or you dont stray and play a shot which will prove unnecessary and costly.

Cook hasn't gone to whack all the poor balls he has faced and he has got more runs than Pieterson if you look at the scorecard. :sleep:
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
tooextracool said:
to be fair to Pietersen he applied himself today, batted sensibly for most of it. it was a fine spell of bowling from shree santh that really got to him in the end, and the ball that got him out should really have been put away. it is however important to note the buildup to that delivery, because that is what did him in. putting a fielder out for the pull, and then pitching the ball up and swinging it both ways had pietersen in a knot. when the bad ball came he went after it in a desperate attempt to try and get on top of the bowler and got himself out.
Yes, the bowler did really well. But, given their lack of cricket, the batsmen should be more selective about going for their shots at this stage, especially when they're still getting used to the pace of the wicket. If KP had 30 or 40 to his name, he'd have probably executed the shot no problem. Thing is, that's how he started his test career at Lord's. Took a long look at it before trying to set about the bowlers. Nowadays he seems intent on attacking from the start, and it just doesn't work very often at this level.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Come on Sky get the pictures going! We missed Cook's wicket! :mad:

Good to see India get another break through though :D
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Pratyush said:
Actually there have been loads of poor balls. Either you whack it if you are completely confident, or you dont stray and play a shot which will prove unnecessary and costly.

Cook hasn't gone to whack all the poor balls he has faced and he has got more runs than Pieterson if you look at the scorecard. :sleep:
Cook and Pietersen are different players. Pietersen is expected to hit poor balls for fours. Whether Pietersen should have played that shot given what happened on the 4 balls before is questionable, but the fact is that it was a poor delivery.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Irfan snares Cook and guess what? The picture is frozen for the over right after drinks, so I missed it! But the commercial break seems to run smoothly. Creeps are trying to grab some extra money...
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
tooextracool said:
Cook and Pietersen are different players. Pietersen is expected to hit poor balls for fours. Whether Pietersen should have played that shot given what happened on the 4 balls before is questionable, but the fact is that it was a poor delivery.
Do you understand english or not? I am not arguing regarding the delivery.

I KNOW they are different players.

It surprises me you do not know regarding valuing your wicket in test cricket, whatever type of player some one is.
 

pskov

International 12th Man
Cook out, inside edge? Looking forward to Flintoff batting as skip. Hopefully he'll play a captain's innings.

One guy I'm strangely looking forward to seeing is Blackwell. If he's given license to play his shots on a pitch like this, I think he could pay off quite handsomely at number 8 for us. Of course, he could be out for single figures trying to hoof it against the spin, but I have a sneaky feeling.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Arjun said:
Irfan snares Cook and guess what? The picture is frozen for the over right after drinks, so I missed it! But the commercial break seems to run smoothly. Creeps are trying to grab some extra money...
So what actually happened? Cricinfo haven't updated their commentary for ages.
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
Cook hasn't gone to whack all the poor balls he has faced and he has got more runs than Pieterson if you look at the scorecard. :sleep:
True. He's even scored more than Pietersen, too.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
wpdavid said:
So what actually happened? Cricinfo haven't updated their commentary for ages.
CricInfo didn't update their scorecards either, but Irfan rattled Cook's stumps and none of us could see the picture, and when Flintoff was facing Kumble, we were watching highlights of the first session!

We complained about Doordarshan's breaks falling over the match and guess what? Sahara sneaks in one when the commentary is still on.
 

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