As usual you don't seem to get it. When England don't try they're average, when they do try they're a very good side even in ODIs. I refer you to the Australia in finals statistic, yet again, before you come up with your usual tiresome limp effort along the lines of: but England are crap because they lost here which refers to when they were playing with the intensity of a warm-up game.marc71178 said:
It is a traditional British quality when concerning their cricket team.
you, like me, must be completely expecting it then!Neil Pickup said:
At least he can find the caps key...chicane said:ok. so trescothik is missing, and the rest of the batting side is rubbish. *all* the rest have lost form after one practice game, they are all hopelessly unfit after 'precautionary' resting, and without simon jones the big pace quartet is a rabble. even without all that geriant jones has been so bad anyway. i see what you mean...
Oh dear. Let me explain:chicane said:ok. so trescothik is missing, and the rest of the batting side is rubbish. *all* the rest have lost form after one practice game, they are all hopelessly unfit after 'precautionary' resting, and without simon jones the big pace quartet is a rabble. even without all that geriant jones has been so bad anyway. i see what you mean...
well, if strauss, flintoff, bell, harmison etc. fail so miserably to be pounded in this series, then they are massively overrated. if however they are quality players, they should do reasonably well.wpdavid said:Oh dear. Let me explain:
1. Tresco *and* Vaughan are missing
2. Strauss has been out of form all winter. Ordinarily, that wouldn't be the end of the world, but it's less than ideal in the absence of T & V.
3. Flintoff hasn't done much with the bat all winter, as has generally been the case overseas.
4. I don't remember stating that Bell & KP were rubbish. Checks. Nope, it's not there. However, Bell is barely established in the side & KP has back problems, which is hardly condusive to carrying the batting. As the others, Collingwood's record is hardly special, and Cook & Shah will be on debut.
5. As for the bowlers, Hoggard's attributes are hardly suited to the conditions he's likely to find, and you won't find many significant contributions from Harmison in the last 15 months anyway.
Apart from that, no problem!
Ian Blackwell to spin us to a series win then? Boy that would be sweet.wpdavid said:Oh dear. Let me explain:
1. Tresco *and* Vaughan are missing
2. Strauss has been out of form all winter. Ordinarily, that wouldn't be the end of the world, but it's less than ideal in the absence of T & V.
3. Flintoff hasn't done much with the bat all winter, as has generally been the case overseas.
4. I don't remember stating that Bell & KP were rubbish. Checks. Nope, it's not there. However, Bell is barely established in the side & KP has back problems, which is hardly condusive to carrying the batting. As the others, Collingwood's record is hardly special, and Cook & Shah will be on debut.
5. As for the bowlers, Hoggard's attributes are hardly suited to the conditions he's likely to find, and you won't find many significant contributions from Harmison in the last 15 months anyway.
Apart from that, no problem!
Not only that, but he's going to bat us to one as well. Blackwell > Sobers, don't you know.UncleTheOne said:Ian Blackwell to spin us to a series win then? Boy that would be sweet.
Erm...yes. That's what I meant, for sure.wpdavid said:
