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Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
Well please explain the difference then.
Injuries can happen and wear and tear can take toll on your body regardless of the time put in.

Wear and tear is likely to take place more as you play more. But it is not necessary that because a player has played more he will have more wear and tear. A player can be forced to perform poorly/retire earlier (Like in the case of a Dean Headley mentioned by me).
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
Practising, playing levels of cricket lower to international level. The physical effort isn't very different (considering the amount of cricket played in early 90s as stated).

On the mental side - one would imagine getting to play test matches earlier in your career is only likely to make you stronger.

Thus the flaw in your arguement that Tendulkar has played so long in international cricket while a Dravid, Laxman or Ganguly hasn't so he is likely to have more wear and tear.
That has to be the first time anyone's ever tried that line of argument - I wonder why that is?
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Well, that drop (Sreesanth) off Pietersen is one of the worst I have seen in test cricket for some time. Second Indian to give the big banger a let-off in an hour.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
In India people play a lot of cricket at the younger age. Maybe it is different in England.
But still, you don't play 5 day games (I'm assuming this, but surely you must have work or school?!)
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
That has to be the first time anyone's ever tried that line of argument - I wonder why that is?
Can I be critical of Tendulkar? Yes. He isn't perform upto the level expected of him.

Just because we do not share similar views on this doesn't mean you try a low blow when you cannot counter a logical point raise. :p
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Tom Halsey said:
But still, you don't play 5 day games (I'm assuming this, but surely you must have work or school?!)
I know regarding Mumbai cricket and not regarding cricket in other cities. So will put in regarding the same to bring some light into this.

A youngster may be, if coaches feel apt, encouraged to play 2 games on a day if a game finishes early, rush to a second game once he has finished playing his part in game 1 and what not.

After club cricket, they reach FC cricket and people do play FC cricket at a younger age in India than most countries. So talented youngsters were likely to be playing as much cricket as an international cricketer (considering the amount of cricket played in early 90s) at a very young age. If not at 15 like a Tendulkar, at least at around 17.

The working hard is a process considering the competition which exists in India in cricket. Regarding school etc, it all comes second compared to cricket in most cases with studies getting largely affected.
 
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luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Pratyush said:
Can I be critical of Tendulkar? Yes. He isn't perform upto the level expected of him.

Just because we do not share similar views on this doesn't mean you try a low blow when you cannot counter a logical point raise. :p
I think that carrying the hopes of over a billion people for more than a decade and a half has just become too much, and he's mentally exhausted.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
A youngster may be, if coaches feel apt, encouraged to play 2 games on a day if a game finishes early, rush to a second game once he has finished playing his part in game 1 and what not.
That's still only 1 day of cricket. He's played 2 short games.
 

What-A-Player

School Boy/Girl Captain
marc71178 said:
Yes backstreet cricket and the like.

How that equates to International cricket only you seem to know.

That's Indian Cricket Culture

Mind you, not backstreet but Main Street.

Its provides the begining and street smart cricketers
 

What-A-Player

School Boy/Girl Captain
luckyeddie said:
I think that carrying the hopes of over a billion people for more than a decade and a half has just become too much, and he's mentally exhausted.
Better than any English Cricketer
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Tom Halsey said:
That's still only 1 day of cricket. He's played 2 short games.
1) Lower to international cricket doesn't mean club cricket alone. (Hint: FC cricket)
2) Play 2 games for days, or week in and week out and it equates to time as much as put in a test match.
 

What-A-Player

School Boy/Girl Captain
Tom Halsey said:
Erm, he's definitely not currently - we've got several players I'd rate significantly ahead of him on current form.

But..but, I thougth we were talking abt all those years of exhaustion and a Billion + Public

Remind me of any English Cricketer capable of that..ahh! therton perhaps
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
1) Lower to international cricket doesn't mean club cricket alone. (Hint: FC cricket)
2) Play 2 games for days, or week in and week out and it equates to time as much as put in a test match.
1) Erm, what has that got to do with anything?

2) No, it's still only 1 day of cricket. Just 2 small games. Compared to 5 days of the highest intensity, and fitness work etc.
 

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