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[Gloucefan]

Was this posted before that Decision?

The decision has no bearing on whether they are playing well or not, it just means the 3rd umpire made a very poor decision.

 

[What-A-Player]

The decision has no bearing on whether they are playing well or not, it just means the 3rd umpire made a very poor decision.

I am sorry to say but the timing of that post did have a bearing on the decision.

I am not denying the fact that they are playing well but amidst that horrible call, that post was very surprising..thus the call.

Jono made it clear in his earlier posts (which I missed) so it answers my question anwyays

 

[marc71178]

Refer to the Dravid example I gave please.

What where Dravid was playing club and youth cricket?

How is that the same as Test and ODI?

 

[cricket_fan23]

Anyone else think that makes up for the Salman Butt runout in Pakistan - not out on the technicality that the bails weren't in the air?

No, the Inzamam "run out" farce during the same series more than made up for it.

 

[marc71178]

To think that just because a Tendulkar was playing internationally, he should be more 'old' than a Dravid or a Ganguly or a Laxman is flawed logic. If some one brings up physical wear despite age (which I did mention in the Dravid example) - for example a Dean Headley retired at a young age, there is a logical thought process certainly.

Erm, where's the difference in those 2 points?

They're one and the same.

 

[Tom Halsey]

No, the Inzamam "run out" farce during the same series more than made up for it.

He has a point.

 

[Pratters]

What where Dravid was playing club and youth cricket?

How is that the same as Test and ODI?

Yes.

He was practising as hard, working as hard on his game (not to the last decimal place of course).

 

[Neil Pickup]

No, the Inzamam "run out" farce during the same series more than made up for it.

Didn't affect the game, that one. We still got montaged!

 

[Pratters]

16 compared to 18.

Yet those 2 make a huge difference to the average...

Thank you for informing me.

 

[Pratters]

Erm, where's the difference in those 2 points?

They're one and the same.

No. And it is no surprise you cannot see the difference.

 

[Barney Rubble]

I suggested to Neil (and he emailed Sky Sports with it!) earlier that the 3rd ump might have accidentally watched the Pietersen replay in reverse, causing him to think the ball bounced after it hit the bat and not before. Another view is that he pressed the wrong button, but the long period of deliberation before the decision was made means he probably thought it was genuinely not out, for whatever reason.

 

[marc71178]

Uhh....

6.6 Dhoni to Strauss, no run, tossed up on the middle and off stump line, defended towards cover, Kumble starts off with a good over
6.5 Dhoni to Strauss, no run, bit wide outside the off stump, Strauss takes it on the pad
6.4 Dhoni to Strauss, no run, defended on the back-foot, ball rolls away on the off side
6.3 Dhoni to Strauss, no run, defended back to the bowler
6.2 Dhoni to Cook, 3 byes, drifting down the leg side, Cook is beaten by the extra bounce, once again Dhoni only manages to get a touch on it, Sreesanth moves across in the deep and cuts off the boundary
6.1 Dhoni to Cook, 4 byes, right through! excellent delivery first-up and Cook is comprehensively beaten, Dhoni fails to stop it cleanly and the ball races away to the fine leg fence

What the hell is Cricinfo on about!?

7 byes in 2 balls.

Maybe he should've been behind the stumps rather than trying to bowl and then stop it!

 

[Tom Halsey]

Another view is that he pressed the wrong button, but the long period of deliberation before the decision was made means he probably thought it was genuinely not out, for whatever reason.

I know Lloyd thought that too, but it's a load of rubbish.

If it was the wrong button, he'd have been on the walkie-talkie telling the umpire.

The longer he took, the more obvious it was he was going to give it not out, so it wasn't a surprise to me when the decisioln came - it was just the wrong decision.

 

[marc71178]

Was this posted before that Decision?

Does 1 decision change the 3 and a half days or so before it?

 

[marc71178]

Yes.

He was practising as hard, working as hard on his game (not to the last decimal place of course).

You what?

How is practising under no pressure at all the same as playing a Test match?

 

[marc71178]

No. And it is no surprise you cannot see the difference.

Well please explain the difference then.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Irfan bowling some complete rubbish here.

 

[Pratters]

You what?

How is practising under no pressure at all the same as playing a Test match?

Practising, playing levels of cricket lower to international level. The physical effort isn't very different (considering the amount of cricket played in early 90s as stated).

On the mental side - one would imagine getting to play test matches earlier in your career is only likely to make you stronger.

Thus the flaw in your arguement that Tendulkar has played so long in international cricket while a Dravid, Laxman or Ganguly hasn't so he is likely to have more wear and tear.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Practising, playing levels of cricket lower to international level. The physical effort isn't very different (considering the amount of cricket played in early 90s as stated).

Tests are over 5 days. Most club matches are 1/2 days.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Horrible drop from Sreesanth.