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*Official* Bangladesh Tour of New Zealand 2019

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
and further googling - a Gideon Haigh book says Mohinder Armanarth suffered a hairline skull fracture from a Hadlee bouncer in 1979, and spent 3 years "on the wayside". That must have been in a tour game v Notts.


More googling. Doug Walters knocked out but unaffected ....
Cosier’s demise for 23 brought Walters moseying out at 4–112 on an up-and-down wicket, the sky cloaked in cloud. Instantly Walters saw only stars. In delayed response to a Richard Hadlee bouncer he toppled backwards and lay slug-like. ‘We thought Douggie had been killed or had a heart attack,’ says Cosier. ‘Then he dusted himself off and didn’t miss another ball. It was like he’d woken out of a stupor.’ Unbeaten on 129, Walters drank from stumps to 2 a.m. with batting partner Gary Gilmour, slurping out of Kiwi beer bottles on Kerry O’Keeffe’s bed, humbugging him to join them.
 
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Binkley

U19 Captain
Back to the Basin match. I see the forecast for Friday is dire, but then clears for days 2-5. Are we expecting another dull seamy road from Wellington?
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Back to the Basin match. I see the forecast for Friday is dire, but then clears for days 2-5. Are we expecting another dull seamy road from Wellington?
I really hope not. Basin pitch has been a nightmare for most of the last decade.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
In Hadlee's book "At the Double" he includes excerpts of letters from overseas fans (particularly Sri Lankans) abusing him for bowling too many bouncers and injuring their players....
 

jcas0167

International Regular
The only occasion I remember of Hadlee being particularly aggressive was when he repeatedly bounced Joel Garner in one of the test on the 1985 tour. Apparently this didn't go down well with the Windies nor with his teammates who copped the brunt of the backlash.

I just did a google of Jeremy Coney broken arm, which was an outcome of Hadlee's bouncer barrage ..... and Coney's wikipedia article mentions how as captain:
I emailed Charles Davis, the statistician and author of 'The Best of the Best' (I'm trying to track down a reasonably priced copy - Davis also calculated that adjusting for the quality of attacks, Bradman's average should be about 84 for a point of comparison). Mr Davis replied that the Hadlee statistic was featured in a May 2013 blog post, Pace Battery:

Recently I have done a compilation of batsmen retiring hurt in Test matches. I found 306 cases up to now, 195 of whom later returned to the crease. This statistic has varied quite a lot over the years, rising to 25 cases per 100 Tests in the 1970s and 80s, but falling again as protective equipment improved, levelling out in the last 20 years at 10-12 cases per 100 Tests. Batting is now, if anything, less dangerous than bowling: the rate of bowlers retiring injured in mid-over is now about the same as for batsmen, and it is more likely that an injured bowler will not bowl again in the innings.

The compilation allows some statistics, although they are limited by the comparative rarity of the incidents. The batsman with the most retired hurts is DB Vengsarkar with six, a tally now threatened by Chris Gayle with five. A more novel aspect is the identification of bowlers who ‘retired’ batsmen. Here is a list of the bowlers most responsible.

Bowler Batsmen retired hurt Tests per 100

CA Walsh 9 132 6.8
RJ Hadlee 8 86 9.3
WW Hall 7 48 14.6
DK Lillee 6 70 8.6
FS Trueman 6 67 9.0
MD Marshall 6 81 7.4

Hadlee was not really regarded as a particularly dangerous bowler, but the figures suggest he was worthy of respect in this area as well. Hall’s reputation is confirmed, and the above figures do not include incidents such as Hall cracking Colin McDonald’s ribs in the Tied Test (McDonald continued batting). One bowler, not on the list, had a rate similar to Hall: Colin Croft, who was perhaps the most feared of the 80s Windies pacemen, retired four batsmen in a short 27-Test career.

Note that there are qualifications to this data. Some batsmen retire hurt (or ill) for reasons other than the bowler. I have tried to winnow these out of the data (indeed, ‘pulled muscle’ is a leading cause of retirement) but some may remain. There are maybe a dozen cases where the bowler, if one was responsible, has not been identified, most of these before 1980.
 
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Immenso

International Vice-Captain

Binkley

U19 Captain
The day has started very wet here in Wellington. I can’t see there being much chance of play today.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Is it time to stop playing tests in Wellington? Roads and rain at the Basin

Perhaps a test match in Dunedin, Nelson, or the Mount next season? Or start playing 1st class games in Queenstown again with the aim of a test there
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Is it time to stop playing tests in Wellington? Roads and rain at the Basin

Perhaps a test match in Dunedin, Nelson, or the Mount next season? Or start playing 1st class games in Queenstown again with the aim of a test there
Erm, you're worried about rain at Wellington and you suggest Dunedin as a substitute? The venue where 4 out of the last 5 tests have been rain affected draws? Ooooooookay...

Also, people whine about the roads at the Basin, but 5 out of the last 6 matches there have ended in results so it seems to me like things haven't been too bad.

Anyway, it absolutely bucketed down this morning, heaviest rain all summer. And the forecast is now for drizzle for the rest of the day, so I'd be gobsmacked if we get any play today.
 
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The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
Is it time to stop playing tests in Wellington? Roads and rain at the Basin

Perhaps a test match in Dunedin, Nelson, or the Mount next season? Or start playing 1st class games in Queenstown again with the aim of a test there
This is the first really rainy day for ages ... well, second. But the pitch definitely needs work. Unless the rain greens it up you’d be betting on the draw in a (now) four day test with a fair amount of certainty.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
This is the first really rainy day for ages ... well, second. But the pitch definitely needs work. Unless the rain greens it up you’d be betting on the draw in a (now) four day test with a fair amount of certainty.
Will be 98 overs a day though if the weather holds for the rest of the test, so we're really only losing 2 sessions. Having said that, tomorrow's forecast doesn't look great either.
 
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Athlai

Not Terrible
Well unless we roll Bangers in the first session of whatever day we start, this will be a draw. Basin flattens out so much that you either need to roll them over in the first 30 overs when the greenery actually does something, or win a war of attrition.
 

James

Cricket Web Owner
Is it time to stop playing tests in Wellington? Roads and rain at the Basin

Perhaps a test match in Dunedin, Nelson, or the Mount next season? Or start playing 1st class games in Queenstown again with the aim of a test there
I was thinking the same thing. The Basin is an awesome cricket watching ground having grown up there, but is let down with Wellington weather, and the failure in the up-keep of the stadium itself. I watched a Firebirds T20 match there over the Xmas period, and was shocked by the lack of facilities, and that the old grandstand had still not been fixed post the earthquake. Seems as though the stadium is being left to rot.

It wouldn't surprise me if other grounds around the country start picking up more Tests at the expense of the Basin over the next few years.
 

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
I was thinking the same thing. The Basin is an awesome cricket watching ground having grown up there, but is let down with Wellington weather, and the failure in the up-keep of the stadium itself. I watched a Firebirds T20 match there over the Xmas period, and was shocked by the lack of facilities, and that the old grandstand had still not been fixed post the earthquake. Seems as though the stadium is being left to rot.

It wouldn't surprise me if other grounds around the country start picking up more Tests at the expense of the Basin over the next few years.
They're in the process of fixing everything there, the RA Vance stand has been revamped, I think every seat in the whole ground has been replaced, there's a new players pavilion, and the Museum Stand is currently being earthquake strengthened and upgraded with a new cricket museum as well.

Also on the agenda is floodlights and a new embankment area to the left of the Museum Stand, I believe.
 

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