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**Official** Australia in India Thread

Deja moo

International Captain
I hope the Trophy remains in India....the Aussies didnt let us take the trophy with us when we retained it in Australia.:(
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
FaaipDeOiad said:
Evidently you misunderstand me, as I did not believe your comment was any sort of excuse for defeat. The only area where we actually disagreed was in you saying that the Australian bowling was steady but not spectacular.
In which case thats all you should have asked :D

Nevertheless, I have my reasons for saying this.
1. There havent been from both Warne and McGrath too many deliveries that looked as if the batsmen could do nothing about it (Laxmans dismissal by Warne with a beauty is one of the exceptions) Most Indian batsmen were lured by very accurate bowling and they played into the trap by shutting down shop. The Australian fields as well as the number of defensive prods and pushes by Indian batsmen that ended up in the slips are a clear indication of that.

2. The lower order of the Indian team played the Australian bowling much more comfortably than one has sen for a long time. An average of 130 runs for the last 5 wickets (more than the first five) is an indication not just of the drought of runs in the top order but also the lack of real peneteration in the Aussie attack. Two years ago, they would have blown away the Indian lower half (no discredit to Kaif , Pathan and Parthiv). On three occasions out of four, I think, it was the second new ball that finally broke the resistance of the Indian tail.

This is not, once again, decrying Aussie bowling. These are smart tactics, but what I have stated is still factually correct. In fact, as I have said elsewhere, the accurate bowlers that Warne and McGrath are, they will become dealy accurate and never let go of the length if all the batsmen will do is go forward with a perpendicular bat with no intention even of trying to work it for singles.

In fact, its when yopu get into this kind of a mode , that when a bad ball (like the short pitched onne from warne that Laxman scooped into points hands) comes alomg, you dont know what to do with it.

There were plenty of short pitched and over pitched deliveries, at least from the legspinner that were not put away, except by Patahn Kaif and Parthiv (Sehwag being the only top order exception.

Thats what I meant.

Agarkar's bowling in Australia's second innings yesterday was similar. Very good without being spectacular.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
One of the major positives to come out of this series for Australia is that we have finally found where Brett Lee performs at his best - as a substitute fielder... :p
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
JustTool said:
I think you have a personal problem with accepting that maybe India is good enough but going through a rough patch, for a variety of reasons, including the ineptness of the BCCI.
But is it a good team?

Looking at results over recent times they aren't actually that good.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
JustTool said:
Martyn didn't walk. For all you supporters of the new-Aussie-look walkers. Atherton was dead on about this bs that the Aussies have selectively chosen to do. However he did throw his gloves, and a tantrum, as he walked off the ground. Do you think he will get disciplinary action from the Match Referee. Nah, he's not sriLankan or Pakistani or Indian...
Do you want a Steak with that Chip?
 

Jnr.

First Class Debutant
JustTool said:
Martyn didn't walk. For all you supporters of the new-Aussie-look walkers. Atherton was dead on about this bs that the Aussies have selectively chosen to do. However he did throw his gloves, and a tantrum, as he walked off the ground. Do you think he will get disciplinary action from the Match Referee. Nah, he's not sriLankan or Pakistani or Indian...
Maybe because he missed the ton? :p
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
marc71178 said:
I think there's lots of doubt - their record isn't actually that good.
Marc I am going by this Indian Team's performances in the past 2 years.

This series is a slight red herring in that SRT was injured for the 2 tests (and I have doubts if he has recovered fully to play this Test, despite his playing ATM ) and for this Test India has lost not one, not two but three of their key players.

If you say, India is not number 2, then please specify as to who you think is.

Because, IMO until England can do something against Australia in Australia and against SA in SA , none of the neutrals or cricket followers with a balanced neutral out look would rank them as the second best Test Team in the world !!
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
maxpower said:
are you saying he has 250 test wickets of IND of his total 450 ???

No, it was a lame attempt at humour. He has around 45 wickets against India. He has 117 against England 97 against the West Indies and 67 against Pakistan.
 

maxpower

U19 Cricketer
Mister Wright said:
No, it was a lame attempt at humour. He has around 45 wickets against India. He has 117 against England 97 against the West Indies and 67 against Pakistan.
oh i see :D but now that you have explained it, it is kinda funny.
 

mattyc

Cricket Spectator
Was a joy to watch the Clarke and Martyn innings. Terrible shame they couldn't hit 3 figures, especially Marto.

Aussies off to a good start in the field. Dizzy bowling pretty tight. Good to have Sachin out for a handful of rungs too.
 

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