***Official*** Australia in India 2017

[Burgey]

That's a fair point. Adds to my theory he should be canned tbh.

 

[Gnske]

Put a can on his brain if anything, just to contain that massive intellect and burning furnace of ideas he has.

 

[honestbharani]

TBH I don't remember Warner bring this bad back in the 2013 series. Has he actually regressed and how will his game cope up with the reduced bat sizes??

 

[Black_Warrior]

The two thirty something scores did show some willingness to apply himself. Some credit to the guy for trying out an approach that is alien to him.

This is international sport mate. You don't get credit for effort. I am sure every member who plays for the national team shows willingness to perform and apply themselves. Yes it sounds harsh but that's the way it is. You get credit for results, not effort.

Edit: @motorwada

Nah, Ashwin has to do something , anything, in places like SA, Australia and England. Just as you want to see batsmen and fast bowlers do well in difficult conditions, you want spinners to offer up something in unresponsive, alien conditions for them too. So if he came here for example and took 5 for <150 in a match which mattered, or succeeded in contributing to a win by even tying up an end while others got poles, then good on him. But really, my grandmother is more threatening than him on our pitches, and she's been dead three years.

Likewise Warner. So if Australia loses this match and say the next game they're like 300-400 behind on the first dig and he slogs his way to 100, it's ****ing meaningless, because the series will effectively be lost at that point and he did squat while it was on the line.

Difference between Warner and Ashwin is the number of games though. Ashwin has a poor record outside of SC but he also hasn't played a lot (being crap and getting dropped played a part). This is Warner's second tour of India. He has played 2 Ashes in England. He has played in Sri Lanka and UAE. That's a fair number of away games.

 

[Burgey]

Warner's has been the cricketing equivalent of Lewis Jetta in the Swans GF against Hawthorn. Strutting around looking aggro and not bothering to get a touch of the footy.

 

[quincywagstaff]

The anomalies in Warner’s overseas record is West Indies and New Zealand. I know Windies pitches are sluggish and not the easiest to score on but you would’ve expected him to do better than he has. And last year’s NZ series is most curious of all; in a side that was scoring runs for fun he scored less runs in three innings than Siddle did in one!

I think what bothers Warner the most isn’t seam or spin but wickets that are sluggish; it seems that without the ball coming onto the bat he just hasn’t been able to find a way to adjust and score tough runs when required.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Ashwin is a finger spinner though. They are an objectively inferior species of bowlers and their craft has inherent limitations, so he gets a bit of a pass from me.

 

[Shri]

The anomalies in Warner’s overseas record is West Indies and New Zealand. I know Windies pitches are sluggish and not the easiest to score on but you would’ve expected him to do better than he has. And last year’s NZ series is most curious of all; in a side that was scoring runs for fun he scored less runs in three innings than Siddle did in one!

I think what bothers Warner the most isn’t seam or spin but wickets that are sluggish; it seems that without the ball coming onto the bat he just hasn’t been able to find a way to adjust and score tough runs when required.

Sehwag was in brutal touch around 2009 but failed in NZ anyway even though he looked good for a million runs. His form was good enough to compensate for his technique against swing and he still threw it away by playing way too many shots in NZ. Sometimes, **** happens.

 

[indiaholic]

This is international sport mate. You don't get credit for effort. I am sure every member who plays for the national team shows willingness to perform and apply themselves. Yes it sounds harsh but that's the way it is. You get credit for results, not effort.

I had in my mind ****s like Sehwag and Shakib. Warner's attitude is objectively better than both of them.

 

[Burgey]

Virat leading the lads out to field this morning.

Still favouring the right shoulder

 

[Daemon]

Virat leading the lads out to field this morning.

Still favouring the right shoulder

1. Is that a dude in a costume?
2. If it's really a chicken what breed is it?
3. Adders mate get your grill out

 

[cnerd123]

9.20am Let's get to the pitch now. Ravi Shastri says that as expected it is a minefield for Jadeja bowling to left-hand batsmen, but he also says there is enough deterioration now for batting to be really difficult

"She's a different pitch now..."

 

[OverratedSanity]

I had in my mind ****s like Sehwag and Shakib. Warner's attitude is objectively better than both of them.

If you remember, early in his career, Sehwag reined himself in brilliantly in overseas conditions and did very well. Scored very good hundreds on his first tours to England and SA. He just went into cbf mode on all subsequent tours which was annoying, because he showed he clearly could play in those conditions if he applied himself.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Virat leading the lads out to field this morning.

Still favouring the right shoulder

What on earth is that abomination?

 

[Burgey]

It's a giant ****.

 

[Tangles]

The anomalies in Warner’s overseas record is West Indies and New Zealand. I know Windies pitches are sluggish and not the easiest to score on but you would’ve expected him to do better than he has. And last year’s NZ series is most curious of all; in a side that was scoring runs for fun he scored less runs in three innings than Siddle did in one!

I think what bothers Warner the most isn’t seam or spin but wickets that are sluggish; it seems that without the ball coming onto the bat he just hasn’t been able to find a way to adjust and score tough runs when required.

He scores a lot of runs by playing the ball on the rise. He gets away with it on Aussie batting decks. Especially when the ball is hard. On a slow pitch he can't get away with those shots the same way.

 

[Daemon]

Get Smith early enough and we win.

 

[Burgey]

What effect do the light rollers have on these pictures generally? Australia will be hoping it's flattened out the rough a bit for the first half our to an hour I guess, then see what happens from there. These two have to try and be there at lunch.

 

[cnerd123]

Virat leading the lads out to field this morning.

Still favouring the right shoulder

You're calling Kohli a chicken?

Didn't captain Steve Smith ask for a nightwatchman last night?

 

[Burgey]

At least he fielded all dig.