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***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)
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I guess for the same reason that Lee only really ran in at full pace when the match was almost over with him in his final spell. Fast bowlers have to reign themselves in if they are too last the whole match and bowl their fair share of overs.PY said:
An excellent read, especially your views on Harmison. I found it infuriating (and brilliant) to see when he bowled that over to Langer at The Oval where he was obviously cooking and Langer didn't have a clue. WHY CAN'T HE DO IT ALL THE TIME?!?!?
BTW Harmison reminds me a bit of Ambrose (NOTE: this is just an illustrative example, not a proper comparison of their respective achievements or abilities) at the end of his career who would often struggle to take wickets on flat wickets, but maintained his average by 1) being incredibly miserly with his economy rate, so he could have a pretty poor strike rate but maintain his average 2) when the conditions were in his favour (this is most relevant to Harmison) taking full advantage with some big wicket hauls running through the opposition. Had Harmison had one more helpful pitch in the series then we would have probably been talking about him as England's most important bowler. Personally I am happy having him in the team as long as he continues to keep it tight on pitches not in his favour (something which was obviously NOT the case in South Africa). That is the advantage of a five man attack. As long as they are not a liability and can bowl their fair share of overs without causing damage when conditions are not in their favour, but capitalising when they are, then they will always be a worth their place in the team. The variety in the attack is what guarantees we should be able to take wickets in most conditions.
Economy rate is a much ignored factor when comparing why certain bowlers have significantly better averages than others. One of the main reasons why Harmison's and Flintoff's averages in this series were even close was because of the enormous no.of noballs that Freddie bowled - adding at least 3 ticks to his average.
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andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Because winning the Ashes weren't enough, Flintoff has even more of a reason to get p***ed.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/En...-a-father-again/2005/09/17/1126750163219.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/En...-a-father-again/2005/09/17/1126750163219.html
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Wow - I don't think anyone has ever had a better week than Flintoff has this week! Congratulations to him, let's hope it's a boy so he can play for England too. (Mind you, we all know how Liam Botham turned out....)
jlo33692
U19 Debutant
Does anyone want to have a stab at the ball of the series????
Shot and catch of the series,best moment of the series..
My ball was not a wicket ball,it was Lee to Petierson in final test when he nearly bent in half trying to avoid it. Shot, again Petierson his 6 of McGrath i think 3rd test? loved Lees masive hit for 6 of Freddie,that Freddie has said he has never seen a ball go as high and as far as that hit in his life .
Catch would have to be either straus or Martyns on boundry with the dive ,God its hard to remember which test was which. I am so sad the series is over as it completly took over from the rantings and ravings of the greedy footballers. What a magnificent series it was,what all cricket should be played like. I hope we never go back to the days of 2 and 3 runs an over and teams playing for draws unless in fighting games trying to hold on. Cricket has its destiny in its own hands now. I think the reason ppl went to the ODI formats was for the attacking batsmen and a result at days end,in this series from England and for last 10 years from Oz we have had that. It only needed someone like England to catch on to the attacking at 4 and 5 an over and reasize it gives you time to win a match,it brings crowds,and puts cricket to where it belongs,When played in the right attacking spirit ,Cricket has clearly shown that it captivates nations, and when played right leaves all other forms of sport in its wake...long may it continue.
Shot and catch of the series,best moment of the series..
My ball was not a wicket ball,it was Lee to Petierson in final test when he nearly bent in half trying to avoid it. Shot, again Petierson his 6 of McGrath i think 3rd test? loved Lees masive hit for 6 of Freddie,that Freddie has said he has never seen a ball go as high and as far as that hit in his life .
Catch would have to be either straus or Martyns on boundry with the dive ,God its hard to remember which test was which. I am so sad the series is over as it completly took over from the rantings and ravings of the greedy footballers. What a magnificent series it was,what all cricket should be played like. I hope we never go back to the days of 2 and 3 runs an over and teams playing for draws unless in fighting games trying to hold on. Cricket has its destiny in its own hands now. I think the reason ppl went to the ODI formats was for the attacking batsmen and a result at days end,in this series from England and for last 10 years from Oz we have had that. It only needed someone like England to catch on to the attacking at 4 and 5 an over and reasize it gives you time to win a match,it brings crowds,and puts cricket to where it belongs,When played in the right attacking spirit ,Cricket has clearly shown that it captivates nations, and when played right leaves all other forms of sport in its wake...long may it continue.
Linda
International Vice-Captain
Ball of the series, Warne to Strauss.. First? Test.
Shot of the series, Pietersen off .. Lee? Fifth Test...when he hit it straight down the ground. He just brutilised it.
Catch of the series, too close too call, there was quite a few. Strauss probably though.
Shot of the series, Pietersen off .. Lee? Fifth Test...when he hit it straight down the ground. He just brutilised it.
Catch of the series, too close too call, there was quite a few. Strauss probably though.
Candidates for ball of the series:
Warne to Strauss - Edgbaston (although that was basically an identical ball to the one that got Tres at the Oval - just proving that it wasn't quite as easy to play as some were claiming at the time!)
Flintoff to Ponting - Edgbaston (obviously without doubt as part of the Over of the series)
Harmison to Clarke - Edgbaston
Harmison to Kasparowicz - Edgbaston
Gee it was a good test match that
Warne to Strauss - Edgbaston (although that was basically an identical ball to the one that got Tres at the Oval - just proving that it wasn't quite as easy to play as some were claiming at the time!)
Flintoff to Ponting - Edgbaston (obviously without doubt as part of the Over of the series)
Harmison to Clarke - Edgbaston
Harmison to Kasparowicz - Edgbaston
Gee it was a good test match that
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Call me biased, but:
Ball of the series- Warne to Strauss
Shot of the series- Lee off Flintoff (I missed most of Pietersen's innings, but I do remember one awesome shot that was more of a swat than anything, when either Lee or McGrath banged it in short as he was advancing down the pitch and he just swatted it away. I daresay it was at Lords)
Catch of the series: Strauss, just over Martyn's catch on the boundary
Ball of the series- Warne to Strauss
Shot of the series- Lee off Flintoff (I missed most of Pietersen's innings, but I do remember one awesome shot that was more of a swat than anything, when either Lee or McGrath banged it in short as he was advancing down the pitch and he just swatted it away. I daresay it was at Lords)
Catch of the series: Strauss, just over Martyn's catch on the boundary
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
That's mine too. Also deserving a mention is Gillespie's perfect pull for six! Brilliant shot that, and completely unexpected.marc71178 said:
Over of the test is Flintoff's first at Edgbaston in the second innings, with two wickets, a play and miss and an edge shot of slip. Lee's last over before lunch on the final day where he hit Pietersen three times was quite magnificent as well, could have had him out easily.
Interesting little snippet in the Sunday Times today about that over. Apparently Vaughan felt that Pietersen was holding back his natural game because of the match situation and, with particular reference to that over (where he allowed himself to be hit on the body twice), told him during the lunch break to play as if it was any other normal day of a test match. England needed runs and an hour and a half of Pietersen would be enough. The rest is history.FaaipDeOiad said:
Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I reckon the best shot of the series was Vaughan's pull of Gillespie for 6 when he got his 166.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Just took a look - very well written stuff.wpdavid said:
Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He scored more runs with that one shot then he took wickets for the series...andyc said:
