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***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
aussie said:
well the rum has settled in now :dry: ,fair enough eddie but this is just heartbreaking, Australia should at least aim for 2-2 now thats all but i expect at the end of this series pundits saying that the wrest of the world should learn from England performaces, but the thing is i dont think any other side in the world really can dominate Australia has much has England have in this series so i dont think this is end of Australia.....

Its the beginning of a potentially great England side
I'm on the Nelson's Revenge beer tonight (may have some Irish Whiskey later), but mustn't over-do it - I've got the match to cover tomorrow :D

Even back in the Botham and Willis days, I've not seen such 'togetherness' with every single player making a significant contribution over the series so far - and each clearly enjoying their teammates' success.

It's taken me until now to finally realist that it's not going to be 3-1 to the Aussies (I've stuck to that prediction through thick and thin) so I'm going for 2-2. You can 'borrow' the Ashes for another year or so, just to get used to the possibility of losing them.
 

Nuffy

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Yeah right, England have had no luck at all this series.

****, they are gifted second chances when they bat and yet when they bowl the same rules don't apply.

If you blokes can't see that your having a dream run with the umpires then youre blind.

Ponting and Martyn were not out, they were another pair of 50/50's that went straight Eng's way, yet when Flintoff was hit LBW on 8, he got the benefit of the doubt.

Its the complete lack of balance in the decision making thats making the series look one sided.

Its impossible for Australia to make any type of defence of the Ashes when we are consistently getting **** decisions.

Yesterday is a classic case in point, if Flintoff's out for 8 then Eng struggle to make anywhere near the total they managed. When hes eventually out, for a worse decision than the first one, the damage has already been done.

Then we have the enbarassing spectacle of umpires making howling mistakes which are destroying the chances of one team ONLY. Its ironic that Bucknor and Dar seem to apply benefit of the doubt to the English but not to the Australians. I am not saying that the umpires are cheating, its just that every single ounce of luck is favouring Eng, ever 50/50 is going their way which has been the case for the entire series.

We've had 4 critical decisions go against Australia in the single day of cricket and its gifted the match to the English.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nuffy said:
Yeah right, England have had no luck at all this series.

****, they are gifted second chances when they bat and yet when they bowl the same rules don't apply.

If you blokes can't see that your having a dream run with the umpires then youre blind.

Ponting and Martyn were not out, they were another pair of 50/50's that went straight Eng's way, yet when Flintoff was hit LBW on 8, he got the benefit of the doubt.

Its the complete lack of balance in the decision making thats making the series look one sided.

Its impossible for Australia to make any type of defence of the Ashes when we are consistently getting **** decisions.

Yesterday is a classic case in point, if Flintoff's out for 8 then Eng struggle to make anywhere near the total they managed. When hes eventually out, for a worse decision than the first one, the damage has already been done.

Then we have the enbarassing spectacle of umpires making howling mistakes which are destroying the chances of one team ONLY. Its ironic that Bucknor and Dar seem to apply benefit of the doubt to the English but not to the Australians. I am not saying that the umpires are cheating, its just that every single ounce of luck is favouring Eng, ever 50/50 is going their way which has been the case for the entire series.

We've had 4 critical decisions go against Australia in the single day of cricket and its gifted the match to the English.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: this is so enjoyable
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Nuffy said:
Yeah right, England have had no luck at all this series.

****, they are gifted second chances when they bat and yet when they bowl the same rules don't apply.

If you blokes can't see that your having a dream run with the umpires then youre blind.

Ponting and Martyn were not out, they were another pair of 50/50's that went straight Eng's way, yet when Flintoff was hit LBW on 8, he got the benefit of the doubt.

Its the complete lack of balance in the decision making thats making the series look one sided.

Its impossible for Australia to make any type of defence of the Ashes when we are consistently getting **** decisions.


Yesterday is a classic case in point, if Flintoff's out for 8 then Eng struggle to make anywhere near the total they managed. When hes eventually out, for a worse decision than the first one, the damage has already been done.

Then we have the enbarassing spectacle of umpires making howling mistakes which are destroying the chances of one team ONLY. Its ironic that Bucknor and Dar seem to apply benefit of the doubt to the English but not to the Australians. I am not saying that the umpires are cheating, its just that every single ounce of luck is favouring Eng, ever 50/50 is going their way which has been the case for the entire series.

We've had 4 critical decisions go against Australia in the single day of cricket and its gifted the match to the English.
mate give it up Australia have been totally OUTPLAYED, all of us strong Australian supporterts have amitted that & you have to realise it too, the fact that Australia have been outplayed is resulting in these little slices of luck going England's way, it always happens :sleep:
 

greg

International Debutant
Pothas said:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: this is so enjoyable
It's good isn't it. And frankly if the decision to give Flintoff out was a worse decision than the one when he was on 8 then I don't understand why he's complaining about the one when he was on 8 8-)
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
luckyeddie said:
I'm on the Nelson's Revenge beer tonight (may have some Irish Whiskey later), but mustn't over-do it - I've got the match to cover tomorrow :D
well i had some beer tonight it helped to calm my nerves after this afternoons disappointments :@
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Nuffy said:
Yeah right, England have had no luck at all this series.

****, they are gifted second chances when they bat and yet when they bowl the same rules don't apply.

If you blokes can't see that your having a dream run with the umpires then youre blind.

Ponting and Martyn were not out, they were another pair of 50/50's that went straight Eng's way, yet when Flintoff was hit LBW on 8, he got the benefit of the doubt.

Its the complete lack of balance in the decision making thats making the series look one sided.

Its impossible for Australia to make any type of defence of the Ashes when we are consistently getting **** decisions.

Yesterday is a classic case in point, if Flintoff's out for 8 then Eng struggle to make anywhere near the total they managed. When hes eventually out, for a worse decision than the first one, the damage has already been done.

Then we have the enbarassing spectacle of umpires making howling mistakes which are destroying the chances of one team ONLY. Its ironic that Bucknor and Dar seem to apply benefit of the doubt to the English but not to the Australians. I am not saying that the umpires are cheating, its just that every single ounce of luck is favouring Eng, ever 50/50 is going their way which has been the case for the entire series.

We've had 4 critical decisions go against Australia in the single day of cricket and its gifted the match to the English.
:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
 

Nuffy

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Thats right, English fans would be so much happier if it was them on the end of every rough decision in the match.

I could really see all of you saying "that the way it goes, its cricket" If Australia had been receiving all the benefits of some shitty decision making.
 

Majin

International Debutant
England bowled well enough to deserve the wickets this evening, regardless of the fact that one was a poor decision. There is no way in hell you could have picked the Ponting decision, not a chance. I was quite proud of the fact that I predicted Hayden's wicket, like when he had the first LBW appeal I told my dad next ball would be out plumb, and lo and behold. B) To even take 5 wickets in the last session on a pitch that had batted like a dream is worth a lot of praise. Martyn's decision was poor, but I must admit when watching my immediate reaction was that it was out, so yeah.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Nuffy said:
Thats right, English fans would be so much happier if it was them on the end of every rough decision in the match.

I could really see all of you saying "that the way it goes, its cricket" If Australia had been receiving all the benefits of some shitty decision making.
That's the way it goes - it's cricket.

Now then, young man (?). I can only assume that you are young because if you had one iota of maturity about you, you would have recalled that cricket has a way of kicking you in the guts every now and again. It's not happened to Austrlia much, and I can only assume from your pretty poor whiny attitude that you've never seen it happen ever.

I've been watching this wonderful game for 40 years now, and it never ceases to amaze me. Oh, yes, you've had some rough decisions, but your batsmen, by playing so poorly, have got themselves trapped in those situations when bad decisions 'happen' time after time. They've not exactly helped themselves.

Now be a good chap and take it on the chin. They'll think a lot more of you (well, one or two might).
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nuffy said:
Thats right, English fans would be so much happier if it was them on the end of every rough decision in the match.

I could really see all of you saying "that the way it goes, its cricket" If Australia had been receiving all the benefits of some shitty decision making.
again :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: this is just so fun
 

Waughney

International Debutant
5/99 :blink: Damn, I was expecting to wake up to about 2/100 chasing 500 or so.

Once again swing proves the difference and, with a little bit of luck, England find themselves well and truly on top.

Is The Oval another flat track( :dry: )? If so, I'll be worrying.
 

greg

International Debutant
Considering what has gone before it's unsurprising really. The Aussies have collapsed against the swinging ball all series. The only difference in this match is that the presence of conventional swing has prevented them getting a 15/20 over headstart.

It should be said though that struggling against the swinging ball is not a new phenomenon for Aussie batsmen. The difference this series is that the middle order have had to cope with it as well (because of reverse swing) and the Aus bowling has been useless (McGrath led Lords test excluded)
 

pskov

International 12th Man
An interesting snippet of the Sky interview with Gilchrist:

Paul Allot: Why do you think your bowlers aren't getting any movement when England have been moving the ball around in every match?

Gilchrist: We've been wondering about that too! *nervous laughter*

Sums up the series so far for me.
 

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