***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

[aussie]

Hussey must come in if the aussies are fair dinkum about this series.

well i cant keep defending Hayden much longer now, i wont be surprised if Hussey was called up....

 

[Slow Love™]

Yeah. Australia's batting has been woeful all series, and they are rapidly running out of opportunities to turn it around. I still expect a drawn series, but I think the chance of Australia winning it is pretty slim now. Certainly England should win this test, weather permitting.

The batting has performed badly - but in some ways I feel like the focus has been too much on the bats. Early in the series (and carrying on from much of the ODIs), we were obviously very careless and showed little respect for the English bowlers. However, it seems to me that over the series, that's very much changed - it just hasn't stopped our batsmen falling for low scores.

At this stage, if I was asked what has been the most decisive aspect of why England are in front, I would say that their bowling attack has been far, far more dangerous than ours. They have absolutely outbowled us, and are doing so again today on a deck heavily oriented to batting. And we haven't thrown our wickets away, or played carelessly. They are pinning us, and their bats (who, before the series, we probably thought were pretty vulnerable) have made our guys look pretty ordinary as the series has worn on.

 

[Slow Love™]

With the exception of Warne, who has fought tooth and nail to keep us in this series, both with the ball and the bat.

 

[aussie]

The batting has performed badly - but in some ways I feel like the focus has been too much on the bats. Early in the series (and carrying on from much of the ODIs), we were obviously very careless and showed little respect for the English bowlers. However, it seems to me that over the series, that's very much changed - it just hasn't stopped our batsmen falling for low scores.

At this stage, if I was asked what has been the most decisive aspect of why England are in front, I would say that their bowling attack has been far, far more dangerous than ours. They have absolutely outbowled us, and are doing so again today on a deck heavily oriented to batting. And we haven't thrown our wickets away, or played carelessly. They are pinning us, and their bats (who, before the series, we probably thought were pretty vulnerable) have made our guys look pretty ordinary as the series has worn on.

soooooooo true Australia have to come up with something to counter Englands bowling, but the fact is after Lord's England have just outplayed Australia

 

[Pratters]

How many overs left in the day?

 

[Slow Love™]

How many overs left in the day?

19.

 

[Pratters]

19.

Cheers.

 

[aussie]

Brilliant analysis by Simon their, so what do you blokes think should we get technology more involved in decision making???

 

[social]

The batting has performed badly - but in some ways I feel like the focus has been too much on the bats. Early in the series (and carrying on from much of the ODIs), we were obviously very careless and showed little respect for the English bowlers. However, it seems to me that over the series, that's very much changed - it just hasn't stopped our batsmen falling for low scores.

At this stage, if I was asked what has been the most decisive aspect of why England are in front, I would say that their bowling attack has been far, far more dangerous than ours. They have absolutely outbowled us, and are doing so again today on a deck heavily oriented to batting. And we haven't thrown our wickets away, or played carelessly. They are pinning us, and their bats (who, before the series, we probably thought were pretty vulnerable) have made our guys look pretty ordinary as the series has worn on.

Absolutely right.

Look at this test match - Eng havent done anything terribly special EXCEPT bowl straight and let the new ball do its' work. Kaspa and Gillespie have hardly strung together 2 decent overs let alone decent spells, and Lee mixes good spells with bad ones.

Add a lot of talent, a bit of luck (funny how you get more dodgy lbws when you consistently bowl straight) and, hey presto, a winning formula.

 

[PY]

Don't need technology, I called it.

 

[Kweek]

as the guys said...it would take 30 mins for a decission..so no!
to be honoust I think that would be out...those edges were soo thin. I wouldve given that.

 

[Adamc]

I think that close-up replay makes it pretty clear that Ponting did hit that ball. Oh well. Need every batsman to make something significant from here on, especially Gilchrist.

 

[Majin]

No. It's all part of cricket.

 

[Pratters]

Brilliant analysis by Simon their, so what do you blokes think should we get technology more involved in decision making???

If technology can conclusively prove on aspects like inside edges, it should be included.

However inconclusive technologies should not be included.

 

[King_Ponting]

If technology can conclusively prove on aspects like inside edges, it should be included.

However inclusive technologies should not be included.

I think you mean inconclusive, otherwise u contradict yourself

 

[Slow Love™]

Brilliant analysis by Simon their, so what do you blokes think should we get technology more involved in decision making???

I am generally keen to use more technology to assist umpires in their decision-making, but involving them for LBW decisions specifically does set up some hard decisions concerning time trade-offs (and when the technology would be used). If it was consulted often, we would have to accept fewer overs in the day. Whether people would be happy to concede that, I don't know.

Also, I'd stay away from Hawkeye. In spite of everybody's seeming acceptance of it, I still find it a little dubious.

Having said all this, I had no real problem with Ponting's being given. It was an absolute feather-touch, and he was comprehensively beaten.

 

[Pratters]

I think you mean inconclusive, otherwise u contradict yourself

Yep a typo.

 

[aussie]

If technology can conclusively prove on aspects like inside edges, it should be included.

However inclusive technologies should not be included.

well it conclusively showed that Ponting had a little inside edge but not only edges other aspect such as bat-pads, balls that flick the glove etc......

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

The batting has performed badly - but in some ways I feel like the focus has been too much on the bats. Early in the series (and carrying on from much of the ODIs), we were obviously very careless and showed little respect for the English bowlers. However, it seems to me that over the series, that's very much changed - it just hasn't stopped our batsmen falling for low scores.

At this stage, if I was asked what has been the most decisive aspect of why England are in front, I would say that their bowling attack has been far, far more dangerous than ours. They have absolutely outbowled us, and are doing so again today on a deck heavily oriented to batting. And we haven't thrown our wickets away, or played carelessly. They are pinning us, and their bats (who, before the series, we probably thought were pretty vulnerable) have made our guys look pretty ordinary as the series has worn on.

I don't think you have to get yourself out for the batting to be poor though. Yes, it's poor batting if you go for a big slog and get yourself caught, but it's also poor batting if you can't handle a bit of gentle inswing from the new ball with a guy like Hoggard bowling. The reason Australia are struggling is because their batting has consistenly crumbled under pressure, sometimes because they couldn't handle good bowling and grind it out, and sometimes because they simply gave their wickets away. Australia have bowled very well at times, but the English batting, despite what would generally be agreed is less ability oevrall, has been able to see off the hard periods and still make runs. When Jones and Flintoff have bowled well, Australia has fallen to bits, while aside from the second innings at Lords against McGrath and at Edgbaston against Warne, England have stood up and managed good scores despite some good bowling.

Part of it is poor form, part of it is poor planning, and part of it is indeed lack of experience against actual swing bowling in Australian conditions recently, but whatever your explaination for it is, Australia's batting has consistently failed despite three of the four pitches in the series so far being very, very good for batting.

 

[King_Ponting]

yeh i didnt need any technology to pick that it was an inside edge... CLEAR double noise with both martyn and punters dismissals