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*Official* Ashes Series Thread
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age_master
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be reasonable, the umpiring in the series till this game has been pretty good, not many either way maybe slightly favoring AUs, but not enough to cost a match like in this test
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Actually I have and trained with him too. In talking with him, it's obvious he doesn't deal with people who he doesn't know very well at all but once you get to know him, he's alright. Intense and sometimes difficult but without his insecurities, he's a nice guy.
He just has an inferiority complex, which isn't helped by the selectors who heap praise on him as one of the best bowlers we have................and then don't pick him. He's an intensely emotional guy and that sort of stuff gets to him. Quite frankly, I think he's far too emotional to be at the top level for any length of time but that's just me. It certainly isn't a lack of talent, though.
He just has an inferiority complex, which isn't helped by the selectors who heap praise on him as one of the best bowlers we have................and then don't pick him. He's an intensely emotional guy and that sort of stuff gets to him. Quite frankly, I think he's far too emotional to be at the top level for any length of time but that's just me. It certainly isn't a lack of talent, though.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Don't know where you've got those figures from, but they're wrong.age_master said:
Our top bowler is averaging 38 (discounting Giles who is injured)
In fact none of our bowlers have played all 5 tests, which says a lot.
Harmison is averaging 53.25 at the moment and Lee 41.23 - which is a lot closer than the figures you've quoted.
Incidentally, Harmison has dismissed Martyn (x3), Ponting, Gilchrist (x2), Love and Hayden - not a tailender in sight there.
age_master
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if lee were english which would be the first bowler picked????
*Laughs at rik again*
an d to top_cat i dont care what problems he has, i cant stand the guy, and wont miss him if he leaves NSW next year
*Laughs at rik again*
an d to top_cat i dont care what problems he has, i cant stand the guy, and wont miss him if he leaves NSW next year
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
Hehehe, in that respect he's like me, a bit fiery! Well I can't train with the England Team or any up and comers as I play in a minor county...Top_Cat said:Yeah but he wasn't even in the Western Australian team at that point, Rik.His report after his Academy stint wasn't exactly glowing and his temper used to get to him at that point.
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That's fine. I can certainly see why you'd think that way of him. I mean, I couldn't wait to try to knock his block off in the nets when I first encountered him.
Now if you want a deserving object of derision, try JL. I've seen the man in action at 'The Austral' here in Adelaide when he was at the Academy. He's a one-man wrecking ball.
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
Not Lee in this form...age_master said:
Anyway I have no problems with MacGill other than his lack of effectiveness. He seems a bit like an Aussie Tuffers, who was never understood. Fine bowler though. If he had a different temprement then he might have played more but in a way every Tuffers Wicket seemed cheeky because of his character...
age_master
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what are you talking about, lees in pretty good form, wickets will come soon, esp if he gets more use of the new ball, anyway as if anyone in england can bowl anywhere near as well as him
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Yeah I used to train with the Academy boys when I was playing more seriously and used to se the up-and-coming guys all the time. Occasionally, a seasoned player like Steve Waugh or Mark Taylor would make an appearance to see the new talent so that was always a bit of a buzz, especially when they were pestered into having a hit. I can confidently say that I personally got Steve Waugh out a couple of times..................only problem is, one time he was batting left-handed and the other time I was bowling spin which in fairness was not quick enough to knock the bails off.
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Well he saw me bat and commented. Now, I suck with the bat (I either get a lot of runs REAL quick of not many REAL quick........
) but what he said got to me. Needless to say, I gave him a bit of chin music when he batted, bruising him in the ribs a bit. We had a bit of a chat afterwards and there were no hard feelings, really.The Argonaut
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Lee bowled pretty well yesterday without luck. Not as much short stuff.
I must have a go at the quality of umpiring in the last 2 tests. In the Melbourne test, Butcher, Hussain and Langer got shocking decisions and in this one Vaughan, langer and Hayden got shocking lbw verdicts, Butcher got a lucky bat pad decision, Harmison a lucky caught behind and another of the English tail was plumb lbw to MacGill.
Overall the decisions haven't favoured either side greatly but the standard has been woeful especially from Tiffin. Bucknor and Koertzen earlier in the series were excellent but these guys have been terrible.
Good luck to England today because they deserve to go away with something for the series. However I don't think that they needed to be given Langer and Hayden on a plate to win the game.
I must have a go at the quality of umpiring in the last 2 tests. In the Melbourne test, Butcher, Hussain and Langer got shocking decisions and in this one Vaughan, langer and Hayden got shocking lbw verdicts, Butcher got a lucky bat pad decision, Harmison a lucky caught behind and another of the English tail was plumb lbw to MacGill.
Overall the decisions haven't favoured either side greatly but the standard has been woeful especially from Tiffin. Bucknor and Koertzen earlier in the series were excellent but these guys have been terrible.
Good luck to England today because they deserve to go away with something for the series. However I don't think that they needed to be given Langer and Hayden on a plate to win the game.
Blewy
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You can add Bichel to that list...
That was an ordinary decision....
Im not one that would usually go bagging umpires, but i have to agree with Arg on this one...
The standard of umpiring in the last 2 Tests has been well below what i would call and International standard level...
It has taken away a bit from the contest which it shouldn't...
But anyway here goes...
Tiffen, go HOME!!!!!!
That was an ordinary decision....
Im not one that would usually go bagging umpires, but i have to agree with Arg on this one...
The standard of umpiring in the last 2 Tests has been well below what i would call and International standard level...
It has taken away a bit from the contest which it shouldn't...
But anyway here goes...
Tiffen, go HOME!!!!!!
Leave Tiffen alone... Yeah 2 had were poor calls but that Bichel one was a super call... Everyone in the SKy commentaroy and myself instantly said not out, way down leg... he was given out and they all said well that's another shocking call... Yet on the reply it showed Bichel was well back in his crease and only hit on the knee role, and then Hawk-Eye showed it would have hit leg stump.Gregory Blewett said:
However the commentaroy team were quick to say they were wrong and prasied Tiffen on a close call. And before you say they would they are English, well it just so happens a Aussie was in the box at the time