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***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

Link

State Vice-Captain
Im not even claiisnt most banter lies?? ming it is banter but i will say that too many poeple have made the comment into too much of a big issue. the fact that the comment influenced the match or Frisk's death threats are speculation
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Link said:
Im not even claiisnt most banter lies?? ming it is banter but i will say that too many poeple have made the comment into too much of a big issue. the fact that the comment influenced the match or Frisk's death threats are speculation
The comments about the referee did influence death threats.

I am not concerned if the comments influenced the match or not. Lying in an attempt to create a specfic scenario is just not on as far as I am concerned.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
Lying in an attempt to create a specfic scenario is just not on as far as I am concerned.
whats the 'specific scenario'?

i hope Abramovich takes UEFA all the way and exposes them for the cronies they are, and while he's at it, can he not take Sepp Blatter down as well

:p :p AIGF
 

Link

State Vice-Captain
wait there a couple of minutes ago you didnt reject the use of banter. Anyhow i mearly suggested, did not stse that mourinho said what he said to try and do anything. Things happen in the moment, rage and that
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
superkingdave said:
whats the 'specific scenario'?
The congenial atmoshpere which Mourinho feels would suit Chelsea. He can make all comments he wants. But they should not be lies like mentioned by UEFA.

And how is UEFA a crony organisation? I am unaware.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
The congenial atmoshpere which Mourinho feels would suit Chelsea. He can make all comments he wants. But they should not be lies like mentioned by UEFA.

And how is UEFA a crony organisation? I am unaware.
for a start the awarding of the 2008 Euro Champs to Switzerland/Austria, though cronyism is much more widespread in FIFA tbf
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
Not every referee commented on after a game recieves death threats and has to go towards the option of retiring.
And that's Mourinho's fault how exactly?

I seem to remember he was hit at half time in a CL game this season because fans were upset by his refereeing.

I was also upset as that was the 5th leg of a bet that would've returned a couple of hundred quid.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
Oh there is a special agency involved in catching Mournho then and every one else is too smart and Mourinho is a fool!?
It seems that the authorities have a downer on Chelsea (witness the stupid "sending off" in Cardiff, the farcical UEFA charges, the "enemy of Football" quote, and now this Cole thing.)

But every club does it - no point in bidding for a player to then be rejected.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
1) Oh there is a special agency involved in catching Mournho then and every one else is too smart and Mourinho is a fool!?



2) As I said, learn to read.



3) It was the Mournho comments which lead to them if even that much isnt clear to you :D.
Why would Mourinho ever give any death threat on a referee!?

4) And when you say most referees are commented upon and merely Frisk recieved the threats, it emphasises further the nature of the sparking off cause of the comments.
1) Don't be ridiculous. Anyone who knows anything about Football knows it goes on, merely Mourinho was caught.

2) 'If Barcelona suck, can Mourinho actually suck?' If anyone else knows what he's trying to say, I haven't figured it out yet.

3) Partly. They may have come anyway. And when did I ever say that I thought Mourinho gave any death threats the the referee?! Learn to read.

4) No it actually doesn't, it says that Mourinho is no more guilty than any other manager WRT commenting on referees.
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
No Mourinho obviously didnt want the death threats to come.

But being an experienced manager that he is, he should have acted more wisely and not made comments that could result in such a scenario.
Every single manager makes comments that could result in that scenario! Can you not see?!
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
It sucked on Mourinho's part to make such a claim which UEFA is denying.

In a statement European football's governing body said the club, Mourinho, Clarke and Miles had made "false declarations" in an attempt "to deliberately create a poisoned and negative ambience".

False declarations = lying

If lying in such a scenario doesnt suck, maybe the defination of sucking is different for you.
How are you so sure that UEFA are teling the whole truth?
 

Link

State Vice-Captain
Tom Halsey said:
1)
2) 'If Barcelona suck, can Mourinho actually suck?' If anyone else knows what he's trying to say, I haven't figured it out yet.
Good point, last night i tried to but to no avail
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Tom Halsey said:
1) Don't be ridiculous. Anyone who knows anything about Football knows it goes on, merely Mourinho was caught.
It wouldnt be so difficult to be caught if every one is doing it.
2) 'If Barcelona suck, can Mourinho actually suck?' If anyone else knows what he's trying to say, I haven't figured it out yet.
Your stupid comment earlier.

3) Partly. They may have come anyway. And when did I ever say that I thought Mourinho gave any death threats the the referee?! Learn to read.
Learn to understand what is typed!
4) No it actually doesn't, it says that Mourinho is no more guilty than any other manager WRT commenting on referees.
You obviously have a bias.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Tom Halsey said:
How are you so sure that UEFA are teling the whole truth?
Do you think even they would be so naive to claim that Mourinho was lying blatantly withuot truth or confirmation of the same publicly!?
 
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superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
You obviously have a bias.
where's that picture of the pot & the kettle? :p

if you followed football even remotely you'd notice that 90% of managers whose team lose a match find something to moan at the ref about, and 95% of those have less reason to than Mourinho had.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pratyush said:
1) It wouldnt be so difficult to be caught if every one is doing it.


2) Your stupid comment earlier.



3) Learn to understand what is typed!


4) You obviously have a bias.
1) Again you make no sense but I'll do my best. The fact is (and don't ask me why, because I don't have much inside knowledge, apart from everyone saying that tons of tapping up goes on) that the culprits are very rarely caught. As I said, I don't know why.

2) Clearing it up wonderfully well. You know you messed up.

3) You implied I thought Mourinho might have sent a threat to the ref, which I certainly didn't.

4) Pot. Kettle. Black. And I don't see why (as Marc says) that as a Man United fan I'd be biased towards Chelsea.
 

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