***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

[Scaly piscine]

In cricket a bowler can bowl the ball any time. The batsman has to be ready. Yet we dont find this exercised even once. Just came to my mind.

Thanks for clearing this up though about football.

Well this is Arsenal so there isn't any sportsmanship, just anything they can get away with goes - the tiny number of yellow/red cards they've had this season is farcical.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Ignoring the foul on him I see.




So Gudjohnsen who was all of 2 metres away when he should've been 10 wasn't listening?

If you call that a foul, you are seriously blinkered.

Gudjohnsen is not who matters. The keeper and most of the other defenders wouldn't have had a clue.

 

[Tom Halsey]

they committed the offence in the first place.

That is most certainly not an offence.

I'm now quite pleased it happened, btw, as I wanted a draw. But that doesn't alter the fact that it was a completely unjust goal.

 

[marc71178]

In cricket a bowler can bowl the ball any time. The batsman has to be ready. Yet we dont find this exercised even once. Just came to my mind.

Yes, but it's a completely different scenario.

 

[marc71178]

If you call that a foul, you are seriously blinkered.

Or rather I know the laws of the game - which you clearly do not if you say it wasn't a foul.

Gudjohnsen is not who matters. The keeper and most of the other defenders wouldn't have had a clue.

The ref was well within his rights to do that - Chelsea should've concentrated more on being ready and less on trying to delay the kick.

 

[superkingdave]

Also interesting that every comment ive seen has been in support of Poll's decision.

And all the papers have also concentrated on the fact that it was the best premiership match so far this season, quote "First things first, this was a wonderful, captivating game between the best teams in the country. It was intense and commited without any of the brutishness that Manchester United employed to stop Arsenal's unbeaten run of 49 league matches in October... A draw was exactly what Sir Alex Ferguson had hoped for, but the Manchester United manager will not have seen much to cheer him. This was the match of the season so far."

 

[Neil Pickup]

I've not seen the incident, however Free kicks are a punishment to the defending side - they do not have the right to stall the attackers and take the initiative off them.

If the attacking side want to take the free kick, then it's all good.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Or rather I know the laws of the game - which you clearly do not if you say it wasn't a foul.

Do the laws include 'if Pires dives with minimal contact in him it's OK', then?

 

[Tom Halsey]

Also interesting that every comment ive seen has been in support of Poll's decision.

So what?

Every comment I've seen has been against the freekick in the first place, anyway.

 

[marc71178]

Do the laws include 'if Pires dives with minimal contact in him it's OK', then?

So you yourself have admitted there's contact, and bear in mind that there doesn't even have to be contact for there to be a foul.

Good to see you have a grip on the laws before mouthing off

 

[marc71178]

Every comment I've seen has been against the freekick in the first place, anyway.

Where is this?

I was watching the game with a few Chelsea fans, and they accepted that it was a goal - not a single rule was broken in it, so there's no problem.

 

[bugssy]

that free kick was a fair goal

even watching the fulham v man utd game the commentators touch on it and said it was fair......

 

[Scaly piscine]

So you yourself have admitted there's contact, and bear in mind that there doesn't even have to be contact for there to be a foul.

Good to see you have a grip on the laws before mouthing off

Football is also a contact sport and if you blew the whistle for the every 'foul' as described above then henry would get to take 25 penalties a game. A referee is also perfectly within their rights to give a free kick against someone who is using 'simulation' to con the referee - hardly ever happens tho, just as players hardly ever get booked for it like they're supposed to.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Do the laws include 'if Pires dives with minimal contact in him it's OK', then?

As opposed to the Rooney penalty against Arsenal where there was no contact at all?

 

[Pratters]

Yes, but it's a completely different scenario.

Not totally as you are expected to be ready as a batsman and as the defending team. But in cricket the bowler usually does wait till the batsman is ready.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Apparently BBC have gotten Yeading v Newcastle and Plymouth v Everton (oh the glamour) plus one as yet undecided match in the FA Cup. Surely Man Utd v Exeter had to be first pick?

 

[roseboy64]

The ref was well within his rights to do that - Chelsea should've concentrated more on being ready and less on trying to delay the kick.

In what way were Chelsea delaying the kick?I saw them trying to organise their defence that's all and Gudjohnsen was well away from Henry when he was going to kick so he clearly couldn't have been too close to not allow the kick to take place.Please clarify.

 

[roseboy64]

Once again Man Utd lack the killer instinct to finish off a game.Where's Ruud when you need him?Home because Sir Alex didn't want to risk him.

P.S Why is Rooney playing more in midfield than up front?Doesn't he know he's supposed to score goals?Who told him he was Thierry Henry?

 

[Neil Pickup]

On one hand, I hope their third pick is for Utd-Exeter on the Saturday lunchtime, and on the other that will mean a very, very early start for the Exeter-based fans!

 

[Neil Pickup]

Once again Man Utd lack the killer instinct to finish off a game.Where's Ruud when you need him?Home because Sir Alex didn't want to risk him.

P.S Why is Rooney playing more in midfield than up front?Doesn't he know he's supposed to score goals?Who told him he was Thierry Henry?

Rooney never has been an out-and-out striker.