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NRL Thread

Blaze

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It is a really immature comment from broncoman.. I just don't get why people cannot appreciate both forms of rugby and why they cannot respect them for what they are.

IMO the all blacks would beat the Australian rugby league team in a game of rugby. I don't say that because I am a kiwi, I say it because I believe the NZ rugby union team is pretty powerful at the moment.

A backline of Muliana
Lomu
Umaga
Nonu
Rokocoko
Carter
Marshall

Would dominate any rugby league side in the backs IMO
 

Simon

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Blaze said:
It is a really immature comment from broncoman.. I just don't get why people cannot appreciate both forms of rugby and why they cannot respect them for what they are.

IMO the all blacks would beat the Australian rugby league team in a game of rugby. I don't say that because I am a kiwi, I say it because I believe the NZ rugby union team is pretty powerful at the moment.

A backline of Muliana
Lomu
Umaga
Nonu
Rokocoko
Carter
Marshall

Would dominate any rugby league side in the backs IMO
in a game of union yes, because thats what they play, does anyone remember a series of games that was played between the bath union club and the wigan league club a few years ago...
the union game was played first, wigan lead by 15 early on, but lost 50-30 or something like that, and the wigan league side won the league game 96-6. id like to see the spread if this was trialled again...
 

Blaze

Banned
broncoman said:
in a game of union yes, because thats what they play, does anyone remember a series of games that was played between the bath union club and the wigan league club a few years ago...
the union game was played first, wigan lead by 15 early on, but lost 50-30 or something like that, and the wigan league side won the league game 96-6. id like to see the spread if this was trialled again...

It shouldn't matter which code is played because you seem to think that league players are so superior to union players and that they would dominate in union..

Anasta will be eaten alive if he plays at five eigth in his first 6 or so games
 

Mister Wright

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broncoman said:
Bowen ill not and should not be the fullback, hes has good speed and ball skills, but he is woeful under the high ball and saying his defence is suspect is a compliment, Flannery is a very useful player, he just needs to be used the right way. I personally would go with Thurston but prince will be selected. and i find it hard to believe thurston has completely outplayed him considering Prince is running top 3 in the dally m's...

id be still very surprsied is bowman finds a spot, i think hannay's goalkicking will get him over the line...
Bowen couldn't do a worse job than Wesser, did anyone see his woeful performance tonight? Terrible in defence, shocking under the highball and dropped the ball more times than he passed it. How this guy is even considered for an origin spot is beyond me.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Mister Wright said:
Bowen couldn't do a worse job than Wesser, did anyone see his woeful performance tonight? Terrible in defence, shocking under the highball and dropped the ball more times than he passed it. How this guy is even considered for an origin spot is beyond me.
Haven't seen today's game yet, but after watching his efforts against the Raiders last week I reckon he's gotta be the worst place kicker ever too.

He's just a big fast lump really, isn't he?
 

Mister Wright

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BoyBrumby said:
Haven't seen today's game yet, but after watching his efforts against the Raiders last week I reckon he's gotta be the worst place kicker ever too.

He's just a big fast lump really, isn't he?
Pretty much. But, he's not a regular kicker, so he really shouldn't be judged on that. His positioning in defence is terrible though.
 

Son Of Coco

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broncoman said:
pretty hard for wendell to do anything when he never gets the ball... blacklock didnt even try, he wasnt prepared to put the work in to change codes...
and id say tuqiri has made the switch pretty well, i dont think we could ever answer the question to this until we have had players of great ability go each way...
That's kind of true, however there were a massive 31 minutes of the match between NSW and QLD where the ball was actually in play so he had plenty of opportunity! :p
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I think Wendall's relative lack of ball skills have been shown up far more in Union. As a wing he's generally gonna be on the end of moves rather than creating stuff, but in League if he got collared & there was no easy off-load available he could take the tackle & the ball would be set again; in Union he always has to have enough about him to try to recycle. That's what he's constantly failed to do. He did score a great try against us when we thumped you down there just before the 2003WC tho. Seems a million years ago; England winning games...... 8-) :D

Tuqiri has actually been pretty good, I dunno for def but as he's Fijian I bet he played some Union as a kid. Rogers has been a bit of a curate's egg.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
broncoman said:
in a game of union yes, because thats what they play, does anyone remember a series of games that was played between the bath union club and the wigan league club a few years ago...
the union game was played first, wigan lead by 15 early on, but lost 50-30 or something like that, and the wigan league side won the league game 96-6. id like to see the spread if this was trialled again...

Waratah's vs The NSW State of Origin team?

would be interesting, i cant see how the League players could eaily break the defense of the Tah's, Tah's also have 2 former League stars in their lineup.

Think about this though, what would the scoreline be if they played a game of union?
 

Blaze

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age_master said:
Waratah's vs The NSW State of Origin team?

would be interesting, i cant see how the League players could eaily break the defense of the Tah's, Tah's also have 2 former League stars in their lineup.

Think about this though, what would the scoreline be if they played a game of union?

I actually think NSW state of origin would be superior to the Waratahs
 

Simon

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Mister Wright said:
Bowen couldn't do a worse job than Wesser, did anyone see his woeful performance tonight? Terrible in defence, shocking under the highball and dropped the ball more times than he passed it. How this guy is even considered for an origin spot is beyond me.
wesser did ok last night, that try saving tackle on cooper was outstanding. i think think of a lot of bullbacks who would have tackled young and cooper would have scored untouched under the sticks...
 

Simon

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its getting pretty silly to start suggesting how these type of matches would go. they are two different sports, Anasta wil be a success, eventually, he wont just walk in and dominate. he will need time to adjust to the structures of the shorter and more compact defence as well as changing his attacking game in a big way. i would be like that if the suggest carlos spencer move to league happened. he would need time to change to the different styles. Some players just dont have the footballing brain to make the switch either way, some do and Anasta is one of them...
 

Son Of Coco

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age_master said:
Waratah's vs The NSW State of Origin team?

would be interesting, i cant see how the League players could eaily break the defense of the Tah's, Tah's also have 2 former League stars in their lineup.

Think about this though, what would the scoreline be if they played a game of union?
If they went high like they usually do in union I don't think they'd struggle too much. I think it'd would be a bit of a flogging either way depending on which code they were playing.
 

Mister Wright

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broncoman said:
wesser did ok last night, that try saving tackle on cooper was outstanding. i think think of a lot of bullbacks who would have tackled young and cooper would have scored untouched under the sticks...
He might have saved one try, but he let in 2 others. He is crap mate, you can't seriously rate him.
 

KennyD

International Vice-Captain
Son Of Coco said:
If they went high like they usually do in union I don't think they'd struggle too much. I think it'd would be a bit of a flogging either way depending on which code they were playing.
I know what to do.

Get them to play AFL.
 

KennyD

International Vice-Captain
As fa as the pansy debate goes, just an example from today. My school played James90 school in rugby union today. Unfortunately, James is a couple of years younger than me, so we didn't get to match up, but I watched him play, and he watched me which was pretty cool.

Anyway, my school won, 22-20 with a penalty goal from like 45m out in the last 3 mins to win, thrilling stuff. But James' school should have been all over us, and they were in the forwards. In the end, James' school just made more mistakes, and mised more tackles on our perhaps superior backline. Now, my school is a very traditional Rugby League school, with alot of our guys playing club league predominantly. And talking to these guys about what they think of union, all of them remark about how hard it is to play Union, the rules, the continuity, and the biggest thing, the BREAKDOWN, which is like a hell on earth if you're at the bottom of it. Btw, I believe our forwards are pathetic in union, the discipline, and their fitness, they cant keep up! In league, theres time for a break at the tackle, everyone can relax theres no pressure situation in terms of possesion. But, and my forwards dont get this sometimes, you cant stop running until the whistle is blown!

Anyway, the general consensus of a team of predominant league players playing 1st XV private school rugby, is that Union, is a tough, fast, difficult game. And these guys, they dont rip it up in Union, despite some people's belief that League players would do well in Union due to it beingof poorer standard.
 

Son Of Coco

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KennyD said:
As fa as the pansy debate goes, just an example from today. My school played James90 school in rugby union today. Unfortunately, James is a couple of years younger than me, so we didn't get to match up, but I watched him play, and he watched me which was pretty cool.

Anyway, my school won, 22-20 with a penalty goal from like 45m out in the last 3 mins to win, thrilling stuff. But James' school should have been all over us, and they were in the forwards. In the end, James' school just made more mistakes, and mised more tackles on our perhaps superior backline. Now, my school is a very traditional Rugby League school, with alot of our guys playing club league predominantly. And talking to these guys about what they think of union, all of them remark about how hard it is to play Union, the rules, the continuity, and the biggest thing, the BREAKDOWN, which is like a hell on earth if you're at the bottom of it. Btw, I believe our forwards are pathetic in union, the discipline, and their fitness, they cant keep up! In league, theres time for a break at the tackle, everyone can relax theres no pressure situation in terms of possesion. But, and my forwards dont get this sometimes, you cant stop running until the whistle is blown!

Anyway, the general consensus of a team of predominant league players playing 1st XV private school rugby, is that Union, is a tough, fast, difficult game. And these guys, they dont rip it up in Union, despite some people's belief that League players would do well in Union due to it beingof poorer standard.
In contrast to this though I'd have to bring up the bit about my school 'Rugby' team winning 2/3 NSW Schoolboys in a row (or maybe just 1!?) made up completely of League players. They seemed to cope ok. You can't really be built like Matt Dunning playing league these days! :p (Although I'm sure I'm about to receive and example that proves you can.)
 

username1234

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still i think union is a more tougher game we get the best players from league and they dont do anything. But if someone like jonah lomu, carlos spencer played league they would be superstars of the game
 

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username1234 said:
still i think union is a more tougher game we get the best players from league and they dont do anything. But if someone like jonah lomu, carlos spencer played league they would be superstars of the game
best players lol, Sailor and Tuqiri are wingers, best in their positions, but not in the game, blacklock never played origin and rogers was an origin winger who was decent...

anyway this is an NRL thread, not a yawnion thread...

how bout those Broncos! tonight proving they are still the best team in queensland and continue to shorten for the comp by the week, what of the great wins in our history id say...
 

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