Now that's commitment

[silentstriker]

Hehe, how many careers have ended in the Ashes? A lot more than the number of wives who've died, I'd wager.

 

[silentstriker]

Also, most woman, especially during the later stages of childbirth, become afraid that they might die so intense and unbearable is the pain.

And I'm sure seeing Lee's unemployed face there will make those thoughts go away. Plus, rationally, most women know that they probably won't die.

Most woman would prefer less money if it meant more quality, family and husband/wife together, time. Married guys, ask your wives!

No one is disputing this. We aren't sending Lee away to Mars for six years. Its five days of a test. If you can't stay away from your loved one for five days, you have some relationship issues.

 

[silentstriker]

For me personally: The day my wife says, "Yea, don't play in the farking Ashes, let alone the most anticipated Ashes in decades, and instead stay by my side to watch me pop out a littler", is the day I laugh in her face and walk away.

Ok, so maybe not...but still :P

 

[open365]

Wow, that is commitment.

I can't comment on any personal experience as i'm only 15, but i think it shows an great amount of commitment and i'm impressed with him for doing this.

 

[adharcric]

And I'm sure seeing Lee's unemployed face there will make those thoughts go away. Plus, rationally, most women know that they probably won't die.



No one is disputing this. We aren't sending Lee away to Mars for six years. Its five days of a test. If you can't stay away from your loved one for five days, you have some relationship issues.

Seeing as he's Australia's third-best bowler and guaranteed a place in their attack, I don't see how missing one test (yes, an Ashes test) is the end of the world. IMO, this says more about his priorities (and situation, perhaps) than it does about his commitment. One could just as easily say he isn't committed to his wife as he's leaving her to play a cricket match at such a crucial time. It's a personal choice and I have no problem with Lee's as I don't know his situation.

Now, if it was the deciding test of the Ashes or the World Cup final ... to hell with all that "being by her side" and get your *** on the field.

 

[silentstriker]

Seeing as he's Australia's third-best bowler and guaranteed a place in their attack, I don't see how missing one test (yes, an Ashes test) is the end of the world. IMO, this says more about his priorities (and situation, perhaps) than it does about his commitment. One could just as easily say he isn't committed to his wife as he's leaving her to play a cricket match at such a crucial time. It's a personal choice and I have no problem with Lee's as I don't know his situation.

Now, if it was the deciding test of the Ashes or the World Cup final ... to hell with all that "being by her side" and get your *** on the field.

For all you know, the first test COULD be the most important one.

 

[adharcric]

For all you know, the first test COULD be the most important one.

I'm saying it here and now: Australia will win back the Ashes comfortably.

 

[cristal]

Firstly,this is a matter for Lee and his wife and no other person is entitled to comment on their decision.
As a woman, I can tell you that childbirth isn't death, sure it's painful but you get over it just like all the other millions of women who went through it.
Didn't Lee say that he wanted to be at the birth?
He did, and I'm sure that this is sending him crazy!
When I was giving birth my husband couldn't be there for work reasons, does that mean that he doesn't love me or isn't committed to me? Not at all.
He wasn't there for the birth, but he's still here and is committed as ever to his family.
It's not being there for the birth that's the most important thing, it's being there for the rest of the child's life that's important!
I did it, so I can understand Lee and his wife's decision.
Hopefully, the baby will be born early so Lee can be with his wife and play in the match.

 

[GIMH]

SS, no offence but you sound so incredibly ignorant on this thread. If Rachel Flintoff went into Labour during the Ashes and he decided he had to be there, then I would think no less of him. There is nothing bigger in life than having kids, not even the Ashes

 

[vic_orthdox]

SS, no offence but you sound so incredibly ignorant on this thread. If Rachel Flintoff went into Labour during the Ashes and he decided he had to be there, then I would think no less of him. There is nothing bigger in life than having kids, not even the Ashes

Armageddon.

 

[silentstriker]

SS, no offence but you sound so incredibly ignorant on this thread. If Rachel Flintoff went into Labour during the Ashes and he decided he had to be there, then I would think no less of him. There is nothing bigger in life than having kids, not even the Ashes

That's blasphemy, mate.

 

[cristal]

SS, no offence but you sound so incredibly ignorant on this thread. If Rachel Flintoff went into Labour during the Ashes and he decided he had to be there, then I would think no less of him. There is nothing bigger in life than having kids, not even the Ashes

OH MY GOD!
What is it that you really mean by this statement?

Man, would anybody think less of a man who chose to be with his wife on such a day? Um, I don't think so!

Sure, there's nothing bigger in life than having kids, but, no offence mate, I don't think that Flintoff or Lee would care about what anyone else thinks of their decision as it really is nobody else's business.

 

[silentstriker]

OH MY GOD!
What is it that you really mean by this statement?

Man, would anybody think less of a man who chose to be with his wife on such a day?

Yes, unless it was something serious.

Sure, there's nothing bigger in life than having kids, but, no offence mate, I don't think that Flintoff or Lee would care about what anyone else thinks of their decision as it really is nobody else's business.

I really doubt any international stars, even Ajit Agarkar, care what we say on this site. That doesn't mean we should stop saying them.

 

[Matt79]

Of course he should be by his wife's side during the labour. Seriously however, I'm surprised they haven't considered having the baby induced a couple of days early to avoid the issue altogether. It does no harm to the baby and means he can do both.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

I might be a little biased because I'm not looking forward to the day my wife gives birth, mainly because I am a little queezy with blood.

I would pick playing in the Ashes over a childbirth, and I don't think it would be right of a woman to expect her husband to give up an Ashes test.

 

[cristal]

Yes, unless it was something serious.

Yes, and I would know, because I gave birth and my husband had to work, BUT, you missed the point.
I wouldn't think less of anyone's decision, be it that they were present or not at the birth.

I really doubt any international stars, even Ajit Agarkar, care what we say on this site. That doesn't mean we should stop saying them.

Yeah, freedom of speech and all that crap but it's a little stupid (actually a lot) that a great number of the guys on here are inexperienced (boys, really) in matters such as this, not to mention, I hate discussing matters that concern only the husband and wife concerned.

I know I'd be furious if anyone were discussing me and my husband's decisions.

 

[Matt79]

Joking yeah? If he went to the match, she'd be within her rights to divorce him IMO. Women do occasionally die in childbirth, and at best go through a significant amount of pain. The least you can do is be there, even if you have to sacrifice a test. There'll be four other tests that summer alone.

 

[cristal]

Of course he should be by his wife's side during the labour. Seriously however, I'm surprised they haven't considered having the baby induced a couple of days early to avoid the issue altogether. It does no harm to the baby and means he can do both.

Well, I guess that would be his wife's decision and Lee did say that they would let nature take its course.

Isn't Lee's wife a doctor?

 

[silentstriker]

Yes, and I would know, because I gave birth and my husband had to work, BUT, you missed the point.
I wouldn't think less of anyone's decision, be it that they were present or not at the birth.



Yeah, freedom of speech and all that crap but it's a little stupid (actually a lot) that a great number of the guys on here are inexperienced (boys, really) in matters such as this, not to mention, I hate discussing matters that concern only the husband and wife concerned.

I know I'd be furious if anyone were discussing me and my husband's decisions.

I am discussing him only in the context which affects me: i.e my ability to watch him perform in the Ashes.

 

[cristal]

Joking yeah? If he went to the match, she'd be within her rights to divorce him IMO. Women do occasionally die in childbirth, and at best go through a significant amount of pain. The least you can do is be there, even if you have to sacrifice a test. There'll be four other tests that summer alone.

Then I should've divorced my husband?
Well I didn't die and I'm sure the Lees can afford the best doctor that Sydney has to offer.