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Name an overrated and an underrated cricketer

Swamp Witch Hattie

U19 12th Man
Does he say anything about McGrath after he talks about Marshall, Ambrose and Wasim?

re: Lillee and Ambrose, the year Ambrose first toured England (88) Lillee was playing his final FC cricket there. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was there just on that.
You, Sir, know your stuff!:

Ambrose:

Ambrose in England 1988.JPG

Lillee:

FC:

Lillee in England 1988.JPG

List A:

Lillee in England 1988_2.JPG

Lillee played for Northamptonshire in 1988, Ambrose in 1989, so maybe their paths did cross!
 

number11

State Vice-Captain
On this, Andy Roberts is underrated. Obviously WI have had a long list of great quicks but Andy gets overlooked. He was an incredible bowler. Might make my AT WI xi as the 4th quick.
 
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capt_Luffy

International Coach
On this, Andy Roberts is underrated. Obviously WI have had a long list of great quicks but Andy gets overlooked. He was an incredible bowler. Might make my AT WI xi as the 4th quick.
I love Roberts more than most here, but will find it genuinely hard to make a case for him over a y of Marshall, Holding, Garner or Ambrose.
 

number11

State Vice-Captain
I love Roberts more than most here, but will find it genuinely hard to make a case for him over a y of Marshall, Holding, Garner or Ambrose.
Him vs Garner is the final pick. I just find Amby and Joel offer similar USPs so may opt for Andy over Joel. Marshall, Holding and Ambrose are locks.
 

The_CricketUmpire

First Class Debutant
You know who I think is really overrated, and I've been meaning to say this for a long time...

MARK TAYLOR

I appreciate that Taylor batted in a tougher era than Hayden, with Akram, Ambrose, Walsh, Pollock, Waqar, etc.

But Taylor averaged just about 43. His 334* is also one of the most overrated innings in cricket history, in that it was made on a flat-track in a Test destined to become a draw. IIRC, there were no second innings in that Test. Scoring 334* on a flat track is an amazing accomplishment, but given the conditions it maybe wasn't even his best innings. Take that innings out and his Test average drops even further.

IMO, Victor Trumper, Bill Ponsford, Arthur Morris, Bob Simpson, Matthew Hayden, Bill Brown.. and maybe even Bill Lawry and Sidney Barnes (Barnes didn't bat enough for Australia really) were better...

Which leads me to my underrated player...

MATTHEW HAYDEN

I agree he batted in an easier era in terms of bowling competition. I agreed he failed in 1993. I agree he batted in flatter pitches than Taylor. And he notched up 380 against a horrible, HORRIBLE Zimbabwe side, and his batting average dips to 48 if you take that innings away.

But crickey! He was still amazing! He was still one of the best ever openers! He still deserves to be considered a candidate for an all-time Australian XV. He dominated some great bowling and crafted some great innings! I've seen YouTube videos of him destroying Shane Warne. Hayden stood up to him.

I think people underrated Hayden for the some reason people don't want to give Warne his due - not everybody likes him.
What a poor assessment. Mark Taylor wasn't overrated at all.
 

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, I feel Taylor is known for his captaincy record saving him from the axe when he had a couple of years without a test fifty.

His threat as one of our danger bats was done by like 1994
 

sayon basak

International Captain
The full team:-
Viv Richards
Joel Garner (for his batting)
Garfield Sobers
Malcolm Marshall
Jeff Dujon
Michael Holding
Lance Gibbs
Andy Roberts
Curtly Ambrose
Wes Hall
Colin Croft

After all, fast bowlers are the match winners.
 

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