Shady Slim
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what kind of maiden is it though
like is it leaving six balls of short, wide, cuttable filth or is it six good balls in the corridor that border on unplayable?
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like is it leaving six balls of short, wide, cuttable filth or is it six good balls in the corridor that border on unplayable?
cnerd123
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What if its a maiden against a rubbish bowler in the final overs of an ODIs/final session of a Test with a high-but-gettable RRR.
Basically take welldone's scenario in the spirit that he asked it - a batsman prioritising his milestone over the overall team goal. The maiden over he plays out actively harms his team's chances of winning.
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TNT
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Well if it so someone can clean up on the bookies and he gets a whack of cash for doing it then its match fixing. If its a unscripted part of the match and he is playing according to his abilities then no foul play.
grecian
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My gawd the tangents are getting ridiculous here. Why would a player near a milestone not hit filth deliveries?
The thing is, it's not pre-planned you aren't doing it deliberatly to make money, and you feel nervous so you go into your shell a bit. Getting out when your in that situation is rarely going to help your team anyway. It's not illegal it's a person tightening up. One of the commonest things in sport.
Oh FFS why am I replying to this?
The thing is, it's not pre-planned you aren't doing it deliberatly to make money, and you feel nervous so you go into your shell a bit. Getting out when your in that situation is rarely going to help your team anyway. It's not illegal it's a person tightening up. One of the commonest things in sport.
Oh FFS why am I replying to this?
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cnerd123
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Yea personal gain in terms of a milestone isnt the same as personal financial gain. The first is still related to cricket; you harm your team's chances to better your own overall cricket record. You reduce the team's gain in exchange for your own. The latter involves harming your team's chances in order to gain in a different medium (cash). The first is just playing cricket selfishly, the second is selling out cricket to profit in a different area. Poor analogy IMO.
OverratedSanity
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Poor Chanderpaul would be behind bars for life if that analogy held.
Jono
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LOL @ OS, so good. Add OS thinking Chanderpaul is a selfish bat the the list of topics that bring certain posters out - similar to Saffers choking a chase for Spark to make a post.
Regarding the last few posts, come on guys. Everyone knew what marc meant, why be pedantic about his exact wording in his post? Trying to point out holes when you know what his point was is a bit silly in what has already become a pretty tired argument with most sides not really changing their point of view (both of which are valid imo).
Regarding the last few posts, come on guys. Everyone knew what marc meant, why be pedantic about his exact wording in his post? Trying to point out holes when you know what his point was is a bit silly in what has already become a pretty tired argument with most sides not really changing their point of view (both of which are valid imo).
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Running is not a good idea in that situation. You need to do a sort of shuffling walk, stopping at intervals to stand with your legs crossed to keep the wolf from the door.
Shri
Mr. Glass
If you get caught stealing money while working in a bank, you get jailed. You serve your time and come back but you don't get a second chance as a worker in any bank. Similar ****.really? How is it a second chance?
That's like saying you can get a second chance just not in this life
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Depends how high up you are in the bank.
RossTaylorsBox
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Pretty sure it's up to the bank who they want to hire as well. Anyway the analogy is stupid.
Flem274*
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haha, nicely put
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
How is not getting out underperforming?
Except you've done nothing of the sort, instead posted ****e that amusingly doesn't make sense.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
What word would you use to describe it then lol?
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Nah it's not. Anyone with a financial crime on their record (fraud etc) or even a bankruptcy/CCJ will not gain employment at any bank or financial provider. Now you can say it's up to the bank. I'm not actually sure what the laws are but if a bank hired a convicted fraudster now and it got out, boy would **** hit the fan.
It's a perfectly reasonable analogy. There are all sorts of offences that bar you from certain professions. So it's not unreasonable if you feel that fixing should be one such offence against professional sports.
Me personally, I'm indifferent to it these days but I think I made a post a while back about how I'll have doubts whenever Amir has a bad day or bowls a no ball, and that's the main problem with it for me.
hendrix
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haha...so many examples of fraudulent bankers and investment managers doing the whole thing all over again.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
it's what those wall st fat cats don't want us to know
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Give examples
I can tell you with absolute certainty that none of the banks in this country would employ someone who was convicted for fraud
Doesn't mean they wouldn't employ someone who's fraudulent...
Uppercut
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They won't employ someone who stole money for themselves, but they'll certainly employ people with a history of deceiving the public for the benefit of the bank.
Tom Halsey
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It still isn't really analogous anyway because as previously mentioned the bank can hire who they want (EDIT: I think), if they choose not to hire those with fraud convictions that's their choice. The bank example would be analogous to Pakistan being allowed to pick him and choosing not to.
That being said, there are better analogies out there; as GIMH said there are all sorts of other offences that legally bar you from certain professions.
Disclaimer: I have only read about the last ten posts and haven't really kept up with the situation, if this is irrelevant/I've missed the point then ignore.
That being said, there are better analogies out there; as GIMH said there are all sorts of other offences that legally bar you from certain professions.
Disclaimer: I have only read about the last ten posts and haven't really kept up with the situation, if this is irrelevant/I've missed the point then ignore.
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