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Match #48- Super Eights, Australia vs Afghanistan (N), Arnos Vale, Saint Vincent-- June 22nd- Group 1

centurymaker

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Nah it’s embarrassing. I mean good on them and tbf I didn’t watch either game and kept up via score updates, but Australia should never lose to Afghanistan in any format, anywhere. If they bow out at this insultingly early stage it will at least hopefully mean a total rethink of the T20 side, which has been persisted with well beyond its collective use by date
There a quite a few duds/outdated players in the Aus team just like the Indian team.

There's Tim David, Warner, Wade and even Stonis imo.
 

Gob

International Coach
There a quite a few duds/outdated players in the Aus team just like the Indian team.

There's Tim David, Warner, Wade and even Stonis imo.
Stoinis and Warner have performed well so far

I just don't think these kind of wickets suit them at all. And when you make basic mistakes like catching and the oppo plays the perfect game, the result is not all that surprising
 

Burgey

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Stoinis and Warner have performed well so far

I just don't think these kind of wickets suit them at all. And when you make basic mistakes like catching and the oppo plays the perfect game, the result is not all that surprising
No, it’s astonishing. It should never happen
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
There a quite a few duds/outdated players in the Aus team just like the Indian team.

There's Tim David, Warner, Wade and even Stonis imo.
Ahh yes, two of the best middle order t20 cricketers, one of whom has been player of the Tournament for us so far, are duds. Next level.
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
Warner is keeping out Fraser McGurk!! Ofcourse he falls in the outdated player category. While Stonis is a dud. Stonis may have performed in this WC but he is a substandard/inconsistent player in general and has been for a long time. I doubt many true Australian fans want him in Australian sides.
 

Qlder

International Debutant
Oh well that's freed up some time. Don't need to watch anymore WC now that Australia imploded
 

Qlder

International Debutant
Warner is keeping out Fraser McGurk!! Ofcourse he falls in the outdated player category. While Stonis is a dud. Stonis may have performed in this WC but he is a substandard/inconsistent player in general and has been for a long time. I doubt many true Australian fans want him in Australian sides.
That's a bit harsh. The two bats that haven't done anything this WC are Marsh and David, while Warner and Stoinis have done well. The iffy selection for me was Wade over Inglis (and Agar should retire to club cricket)
 

Zinzan

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Horrible format ..

South Africa have one bad game and they out , but a win and they face potentially Afghanistan in the Semi final, Australia have one bad game and now even if they win vs India they could go out if Afghanistan destroy Bangladesh
Unlikely, Australia's NRR is 0.22 & Afghan's is -0.65 so Australia really just need to win vs India for all intents & purposes.
 
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srbhkshk

International Captain
Unlikely, Australia's NRR is 2.22 & Afghan's is -0.65 so Australia really just need to win vs India for all intents & purposes.
It's actually 0.22 after their loss, Afghanistan need to win by about +35 runs to take over Australia.
 

Stefan9

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It's how it is in round robins unfortunately. Sometimes you can lose a few and still make it eg Pakistan. Sometimes one loss is enough to knock you out. Thats how it is in other sports too. Nothing different here.

And if India finishes in 2nd place in Group 1, they will play the "winner" of Group 2.

Apparently cricinfo misinformed the public. There's no special guarantees for any team. Though India will play their semi final in day time in Guyana but they have not played any other matches there, so conditions will be as new for them as anybody else. No advantage.
In other sports it goes to h2h first. Here it goes to the maths first .

It is a special guarantee to know where your semi will be no matter whether you finish second or first in the group.
 

Zinzan

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It's actually 0.22 after their loss, Afghanistan need to win by about +35 runs to take over Australia.
Yes correcting that typo I meant 0.22 & my point still stands. If Australia manage to beat India which will see that go up, they'd need the Afghans to absolutely pump Bangladesh to overtake their NRR, and I think Bangas will fair better against Afg in these conditions than the likes of Aus & NZ.
 

number11

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Woke up to this shocker! Good on the Ghans I guess.
However, one gets the feeling that they may have awoken a monster. 😄
 

centurymaker

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In other sports it goes to h2h first. Here it goes to the maths first .

It is a special guarantee to know where your semi will be no matter whether you finish second or first in the group.
No thats incorrect. It's usually goal difference first. Which is football's NRR. If there is a 3-way tie then Head to Head doesn't really work. So NRR/goal difference is preferred.

Knowing you can only play the 2nd semifinal is an advantage? yeah right! given the 1st semifinal is a day earlier, giving the winner of that match an extra day off before the final.

Any team would usually prefer to play first so thats a slight disadvantage for India. Dude one can twist this anyway one likes. The only reason it's predetermined is for TV Rights (prime time slot) and not to give an advantage. Thats all there is to it. You are just being disingenuous
 
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