Kohli Test Average

[OverratedSanity]

Agreed completely. Not only pissed but betrayed considering how much I loved this guy since I was a child

Bro he just sucks now its not that deep

 

[subshakerz]

I can see Kohli scrapping another ton in Sydney especially if it's another flat pitch. That can justify his tour frankly compared to Rohit who is a walking wicket.

Whether Kohli should make it to England is another question.

 

[subshakerz]

Deep down, you still hope that Kohli will end up with a 50+ average.

Yes. Anything less is a betrayal of his abilities.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I can see Kohli scrapping another ton in Sydney especially if it's another flat pitch. That can justify his tour frankly compared to Rohit who is a walking wicket.

Whether Kohli should make it to England is another question.

If he manages two tons, then this tour would frankly be middling and not necessarily bad, and then like it or not, he will go to England.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Deep down, you still hope that Kohli will end up with a 50+ average.

I do, but I know that's frankly impossible now.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Bro he just sucks now its not that deep

The problem isn't just he sucked, the problem is that he still throws his wicket in the same ****ing 6th stump outswinger till now. For 5 years, he got out trying to drive a 6th stump outswinger...... Are you kidding me?? That's ****ing pathetic. With that level of self control he shan't play internationally.

 

[subshakerz]

The problem isn't just he sucked, the problem is that he still throws his wicket in the same ****ing 6th stump outswinger till now. For 5 years, he got out trying to drive a 6th stump outswinger...... Are you kidding me?? That's ****ing pathetic. With that level of self control he shan't play internationally.

The problem is that he doesn't look in bad form or anything. Middling the ball well. Even against NZ in India. He is just getting out in odd and silly ways. Looks quite lax.

 

[Daemon]

Really pissed as Kohli. What a waste of elite abilities to end up in the 40s. I thought this guy had more pride to push his record forward. Feel completely let down by his approach.

This but opposite

 

[mackembhoy]

Has there ever been a more prolonged fall from greatness than Kohli?

God like and talked of as being up there with Sachin and now ridiculed as being like Crawley. The only ones I can think of are Botham and Waqar and Botham hardly played in the last few years as he was usually injured anyway. Waqar was a sad case going from express pace, fearsome and averaging 20ish to almost medium pace and nothing like his old self.

The Shastri comment about 3/4 more years is laughable. Stick.a fork in him, he's done.

His drop off is similar albeit worse than Ponting. On the one hand Ponting was a lot older at start of his drop.

But then Kohli batting in a harder era and COVID cricket I reckon a big factor for his drop off.

Kohli Pre and Post Drop

Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
2011-2019	84	141	10	7202	254*	54.97	12457	57.81	27	22	10	805	22
2020-2024	38	67	3	2005	186	31.32	4070	49.26	3	9	5	221	8

Ponting Pre and Post Drop

Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
1995-2008	127	213	26	10697	257	57.20	18135	58.98	37	43	9	1194	63
2009-2012	41	74	3	2681	221	37.76	4647	57.69	4	19	8	315	10

 

[Ali TT]

His drop off is similar albeit worse than Ponting. On the one hand Ponting was a lot older at start of his drop.

But then Kohli batting in a harder era and COVID cricket I reckon a big factor for his drop off.

Kohli Pre and Post Drop

Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
2011-2019	84	141	10	7202	254*	54.97	12457	57.81	27	22	10	805	22
2020-2024	38	67	3	2005	186	31.32	4070	49.26	3	9	5	221	8

Ponting Pre and Post Drop

Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
1995-2008	127	213	26	10697	257	57.20	18135	58.98	37	43	9	1194	63
2009-2012	41	74	3	2681	221	37.76	4647	57.69	4	19	8	315	10

Ponting can be forgiven his, given he was already 34 and at where decline becomes expected. Kohli has lost 3 years at his peak, so much more inexplicable.

 

[mackembhoy]

Ponting can be forgiven his, given he was already 34 and at where decline becomes expected. Kohli has lost 3 years at his peak, so much more inexplicable.

I have zero love for Kohli. But his decline started in a COVID bubble cricket world.

I reckon that would have tested a lot of the greats in a way they'd have never imagined.

A big gap without playing any cricket and when they did play in a restrictive environment.

 

[h_hurricane]

Really pissed as Kohli. What a waste of elite abilities to end up in the 40s. I thought this guy had more pride to push his record forward. Feel completely let down by his approach.

Would you still stay with your vote in the below thread ? Makes no sense now to have Kohli above Dravid.

Virat Kohli vs Rahul Dravid

Two very different players

www.cricketweb.net

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

The problem isn't just he sucked, the problem is that he still throws his wicket in the same ****ing 6th stump outswinger till now. For 5 years, he got out trying to drive a 6th stump outswinger...... Are you kidding me?? That's ****ing pathetic. With that level of self control he shan't play internationally.

Exactly. Lacks the drive and sheer determination

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Would you still stay with your vote in the below thread ? Makes no sense now to have Kohli above Dravid.

Virat Kohli vs Rahul Dravid

Two very different players

www.cricketweb.net

Dravid surely and specifically because post the loss of his prime form he still had the determination to grind it out

 

[kevinw]

Dravid surely and specifically because post the loss of his prime form he still had the determination to grind it out

There is clear, clear daylight between Sachin and Dravid, and Kohli.

 

[subshakerz]

Would you still stay with your vote in the below thread ? Makes no sense now to have Kohli above Dravid.

Virat Kohli vs Rahul Dravid

Two very different players

www.cricketweb.net

It's gutting because like ABD, I know instinctively Kohli is a better quality bat than Dravid but he doesn't have the career to justify that.

 

[L Trumper]

It's gutting because like ABD, I know instinctively Kohli is a better quality bat than Dravid but he doesn't have the career to justify that.

Considering Kohli can't play back foot, it is hard to see how he is a quality batter than Dravid.
Whole reason he fishes outside off is because drive is the only reliable scoring shot he has on offside.

Kohli is probably better against bounce, but Dravid beats him in lateral movement (swing & seam) and spin.

 

[subshakerz]

Considering Kohli can't play back foot, it is hard to see how he is a quality batter than Dravid.
Whole reason he fishes outside off is because drive is the only reliable scoring shot he has on offside.

Kohli is probably better against bounce, but Dravid beats him in lateral movement (swing & seam) and spin.

Don't really rate either Kohli or Dravid against spin.

 

[Teja.]

If Kohli, Pujara and Rahane retired after 2019 all on their 32nd year:

Rahane would have retired averaging 44 in 63 tests instead of 38 now.

Pujara would have retired averaging 50 in 75 tests instead of 43 now.

Kohli would have retired averaging 55 average in 84 tests instead of 47 now.

All of them are averaging in the 20s since then.

 

[Johan]

If he manages two tons, then this tour would frankly be middling and not necessarily bad, and then like it or not, he will go to England.

he won't average 15 in England.