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Joe Root vs Mark Waugh

Who is the better test batsman?

  • Total voters
    51
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
I would probably rank the Top 51 English batsmen as:
1. W G Grace
2. Jack Hobbs
3. Len Hutton
4. Wally Hammond
5. Herbert Sutcliffe
6. Ken Barrington
7. Joe Root
8. K S Ranjitsinhji
9. Denis Compton
10. Geoff Boycott
11. Peter May
12. Arthur Shrewsbury
13. Kevin Pietersen
14. Colin Cowdrey
15. Alaistar Cook
16. Graham Gooch
17. David Gower
18. Frank Woolley
19. Ted Dexter
20. Tom Graveney
21. Stanley Jackson
22. Maurice Leyland
23. Patsy Hendren
24. Johnny Tyldesly
25. Graham Thorpe
26. Denis Amiss
27. Archie Maclaren
28. Plum Warner
29. C B Fry
30. Tom Hayward
31. Douglas Jardine
32. John Edrich
33. Cyril Washbrook
34. Phil Mead
35. Eddie Paynter
36. Robin Smith
37. Bobby Abel
38. Alec Stewart
39. Mike Atherton
40. Allan Steel
41. Ian Bell
42. Jonathan Trott
43. Joe Hardstaff Jr
44. Andy Sandham
45. K S Duleepsinhji
46. Michael Vaughan
47. Ben Stokes
48. Basil D'Oliveira
49. Jack Russell Sr
50. Ernest Tyldesly
51. Bill Edrich
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Cool list. I’d have Hammond over Hutton and bump Boycott above Ranji and maybe May above Compton but thats it at the top lol
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Archer6K said:
Do you have a list for other countries?
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HouHsiaoHsien said:
I’d love to see how the Aus and WI lists turn out. Hope for similarly detailed work Captain
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I have for every country, but except Australia, none is so long....

The Australian one:
1. Don Bradman
2. Steve Smith
3. Greg Chappell
4. Victor Trumper
5. Allan Border
6. Steve Waugh
7. Ricky Ponting
8. Neil Harvey
9. Clem Hill
10. Bob Simpson
11. Matthew Hayden
12. Stan McCabe
13. Arthur Morris
14. Charlie MaCartney
15. Michael Clarke
16. Bill Lawry
17. Bill Ponsford
18. Adam Gilchrist
19. Doug Walters
20. Mike Hussey
21. David Boon
22. Lindsay Hassett
23. Bill Woodfull
24. Ian Chappell
25. Norm O'Neill
26. Mark Waugh
27. Marnus Labuschagne
28. Justin Langer
29. Jack Ryder
30. Sid Barnes
31. Mark Taylor
32. Warwick Armstrong
33. Damien Martyn
34. Warren Bardsley
35. Archie Jackson
36. Michael Slater
37. David Warner
38. Usman Khwaja
39. Dean Jones
40. Billy Murdoch
41. Herbie Collins
42. Jack Fingleton
43. Bill Brown
44. Simon Katich
45. Kim Hughes
46. Ian Redpath
47. Alan Kippax
48. Joe Darling
49. Colin McDonald
50. Vernon Ransford
51. Keith Miller
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
I have for every country, but except Australia, none is so long....

The Australian one:
1. Don Bradman
2. Steve Smith
3. Greg Chappell
4. Victor Trumper
5. Allan Border
6. Steve Waugh
7. Ricky Ponting
8. Neil Harvey
9. Clem Hill
10. Bob Simpson
11. Matthew Hayden
12. Stan McCabe
13. Arthur Morris
14. Charlie MaCartney
15. Michael Clarke
16. Bill Lawry
17. Bill Ponsford
18. Adam Gilchrist
19. Doug Walters
20. Mike Hussey
21. David Boon
22. Lindsay Hassett
23. Bill Woodfull
24. Ian Chappell
25. Norm O'Neill
26. Mark Waugh
27. Marnus Labuschagne
28. Justin Langer
29. Jack Ryder
30. Sid Barnes
31. Mark Taylor
32. Warwick Armstrong
33. Damien Martyn
34. Warren Bardsley
35. Archie Jackson
36. Michael Slater
37. David Warner
38. Usman Khwaja
39. Dean Jones
40. Billy Murdoch
41. Herbie Collins
42. Jack Fingleton
43. Bill Brown
44. Simon Katich
45. Kim Hughes
46. Ian Redpath
47. Alan Kippax
48. Joe Darling
49. Colin McDonald
50. Vernon Ransford
51. Keith Miller
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Just swap Hill and Trumper and you’re good to go.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
I have for every country, but except Australia, none is so long....

The Australian one:
1. Don Bradman
2. Steve Smith
3. Greg Chappell
4. Victor Trumper
5. Allan Border
6. Steve Waugh
7. Ricky Ponting
8. Neil Harvey
9. Clem Hill
10. Bob Simpson
11. Matthew Hayden
12. Stan McCabe
13. Arthur Morris
14. Charlie MaCartney
15. Michael Clarke
16. Bill Lawry
17. Bill Ponsford
18. Adam Gilchrist
19. Doug Walters
20. Mike Hussey
21. David Boon
22. Lindsay Hassett
23. Bill Woodfull
24. Ian Chappell
25. Norm O'Neill
26. Mark Waugh
27. Marnus Labuschagne
28. Justin Langer
29. Jack Ryder
30. Sid Barnes
31. Mark Taylor
32. Warwick Armstrong
33. Damien Martyn
34. Warren Bardsley
35. Archie Jackson
36. Michael Slater
37. David Warner
38. Usman Khwaja
39. Dean Jones
40. Billy Murdoch
41. Herbie Collins
42. Jack Fingleton
43. Bill Brown
44. Simon Katich
45. Kim Hughes
46. Ian Redpath
47. Alan Kippax
48. Joe Darling
49. Colin McDonald
50. Vernon Ransford
51. Keith Miller
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Punter at 7th????
 
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Archer6K

U19 12th Man
capt_Luffy said:
I have for every country, but except Australia, none is so long....

The Australian one:
1. Don Bradman
2. Steve Smith
3. Greg Chappell
4. Victor Trumper
5. Allan Border
6. Steve Waugh
7. Ricky Ponting
8. Neil Harvey
9. Clem Hill
10. Bob Simpson
11. Matthew Hayden
12. Stan McCabe
13. Arthur Morris
14. Charlie MaCartney
15. Michael Clarke
16. Bill Lawry
17. Bill Ponsford
18. Adam Gilchrist
19. Doug Walters
20. Mike Hussey
21. David Boon
22. Lindsay Hassett
23. Bill Woodfull
24. Ian Chappell
25. Norm O'Neill
26. Mark Waugh
27. Marnus Labuschagne
28. Justin Langer
29. Jack Ryder
30. Sid Barnes
31. Mark Taylor
32. Warwick Armstrong
33. Damien Martyn
34. Warren Bardsley
35. Archie Jackson
36. Michael Slater
37. David Warner
38. Usman Khwaja
39. Dean Jones
40. Billy Murdoch
41. Herbie Collins
42. Jack Fingleton
43. Bill Brown
44. Simon Katich
45. Kim Hughes
46. Ian Redpath
47. Alan Kippax
48. Joe Darling
49. Colin McDonald
50. Vernon Ransford
51. Keith Miller
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Where would you rank Cowper?
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Archer6K said:
Where would you rank Cowper?
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53rd, just after Keith Stackpole.

The top 60 will be:
52. Keith Stackpole
53. Bob Cowper
54. Reggie Duff
55. Chris Rogers
56. Charlie Bannerman
57. Syd Gregory
58. Brian Booth
59. Darren Lehman
60. Graham Yallop
 
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capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
PlayerComparisons said:
I don’t see how that’s an unreasonable opinion. The guys above him are all ATG batsmen except maybe Trumper.
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What do you mean by "Maybe Trumper"?? By all accounts he averaged 48 while batting in middle order and his reputation dwarfed all contemporaries..... If we are talking of real stardom in cricket, he I believe is one of Australia's Two Mega stars alongside Bradman.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
kyear2 said:
Punter at 7th????
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Not entirely crazy but yeah I personally don’t have Trumper up anywhere near that high.

I can definitely see arguments for rating Chappell/Ponting/Border/Waugh in a multitude of different orders.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Coronis said:
Not entirely crazy but yeah I personally don’t have Trumper up anywhere near that high.

I can definitely see arguments for rating Chappell/Ponting/Border/Waugh in a multitude of different orders.
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Where would you place Trumper among Aussie batters?? I can definitely see arguments for Trumper to be with Hill, but I don't think placing him so high is unjustifiable really.....
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
kyear2 said:
Bradman
Smith
Ponting / Chappell
Border
Waugh

But that's just my opinion
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And that's completely fine, probably majority shares your sentiment. I just feel Chappell's more rounded record, Trumper's legacy, Border's tenacity and Waugh's dependable nature; just places them a little ahead of Ponting.
 
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