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Joe Root vs Mark Waugh

Who is the better test batsman?

  • Total voters
    51
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Coronis said:
Is it? I know we’re getting into checklist territory here but he averages sub 40 against everyone bar Australia and Windies (who I’ve already covered).

Taylor on the other hand despite playing more teams averages sub 40 against fewer nations (3 compared to 4).

I think Taylor takes it due to longevity and a better rounded record but hey, agree to disagree.
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Yeah, let's agree to disagree then. Turner was on opener, played for a weaker team and by well rounded, I meant he averaged 35+ against all the teams.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
This was a **** show.... The level of Indian pacers in the past has been ****ing atrocious for the most part..... ****ing Vijay Hazare squeezed in!! Anyways, I only ranked those pacers who played atleast one Test, with most of the emphasis on Test, but also some in the domestic level. Haven't included Amir Elahi as he played mostly for Pakistan.
Top 51 Indian Pacers:

1. Jasprit Bumrah
2. Kapil Dev
3. Mohammad Shami
4. Zaheer Khan
5. Javagal Srinath
6. Amar Singh
7. Mohammad Nissar
8. Ishant Sharma
9. Umesh Yadav
10. Karsan Ghavri
11. Mohammad Siraj
12. Bhuvnehswar Kumar
13. Venkatesh Prasad
14. Madan Lal
15. Roger Binny
16. Chetan Sharma
17. Manoj Prabhakar
18. Shardul Thakur
19. S Sreesanth
20. Munaf Patel
21. Irfan Pathan
22. Ashish Nehra
23. Ajit Agarkar
24. Shute Banerjee
25. Dattu Phadkar
26. Ramakant Desai
27. Vasant Ranjane
28. Jahangir Khan
29. Lala Amarnath
30. R P Singh
31. Hardik Pandya
32. Lakshmipati Balaji
33. Praveen Kumar
34. Jaydev Unadkat
35. Mukesh Kumar
36. Abbey Kuruvilla
37. Varun Aron
38. Subrata Guha
39. Abid Ali
40. Gulabrai Ramchand
41. Akash Deep
42. Vijay Hazare
43. Subroto Banerjee
44. Balwinder Singh Sandhoo
45. Navdeep Saini
46. Debasish Mohanty
47. T Natrajan
48. Pankaj Singh
49. Vinay Kumar
50. Atul Wassan
51. Vikram Raj Vir Singh
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Trying this again as I hate myself..... now being an overall Red ball ranking, playing a Test match being the qualifier:

  1. Jasprit Bumrah
  2. Kapil Dev
  3. Mohammad Shami
  4. Amar Singh
  5. Mohammad Nissar
  6. Javagal Srinath
  7. Zaheer Khan
  8. Ishant Sharma
  9. Umesh Yadav
  10. Bhuvneshwar Kumar
  11. Mohammad Siraj
  12. Karsan Ghavri
  13. Venkatesh Prasad
  14. Irfan Pathan
  15. Shardul Thakur
  16. Ramakant Desai
  17. Shute Banerjee
  18. Roger Binny
  19. Chetan Sharma
  20. S Sreesanth
  21. Praveen Kumar
  22. R P Singh
  23. Manoj Prabhakar
  24. Ajit Agarkar
  25. Jahangir Khan
  26. Akash Deep
  27. Jaydev Unadkat
  28. Madan Lal
  29. Vasant Ranjane
  30. Pankaj Singh
  31. Mukesh Kumar
  32. Lala Amarnath
  33. Abey Kuruvilla
  34. Gulabrai Ramchand
  35. Dattu Phadkar
  36. Lakshmipati Balaji
  37. Ashish Nehra
  38. Munaf Patel
  39. Syed Abid Ali
  40. Debasish Mohanty
  41. Subroto Guha
  42. Navdeep Saini
  43. T Natrajan
  44. Prasidh Krishna
  45. Subroto Banerjee
  46. Hardik Pandya
  47. Balwinder Singh Sandhoo
  48. Vijay Hazare
  49. Varun Aaron
  50. Vinay Kumar
  51. Atul Wassan
 
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BazBall21

BazBall21

International Captain
PlayerComparisons said:
Hopefully Root can do well in Aus and end with a 50+ average to really prove me wrong.

It’s pretty hilarious (and embarrassing) how England havent produced an undisputed ATG batsman/bowler since the 1960s but it would be good to see Root change this.
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England have an imbalance between pre-1970 and post-1970. Thought it was an interesting point from Coronis that the 1966 FIFA world cup win might have done damage to cricket in England. Obviously there are other factors.
 
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PlayerComparisons

International Captain
BazBall21 said:
England have an imbalance between pre-1970 and post-1970. Thought it was an interesting point from Coronis that the 1966 FIFA world cup win might have done damage to cricket in England. Obviously there are other factors.
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It would be funny to see it continue but most England fans probably do deserve a few undisputed ATGs so don’t mind Root getting there although I still think it’s unlikely he does well in Aus and ends with a 50+ average. I’m confident Brook will end up with that status though.
 
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