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Jasprit Bumrah vs Malcolm Marshall

Bumrah vs Marshall at their peak

  • Bumrah

    Votes: 6 20.0%

  • Marshall

    Votes: 24 80.0%
  • Total voters
    30
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HouHsiaoHsien

International Debutant
On the topic, i would take Marshall ahead on his destructiveness(ala his 1983 India series). I would like Bumrah to have a series like that
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

State Vice-Captain
Is there any bowler that has like a perfect record? Playing against/in 3 or 4 countries don’t really count.

I mean an overall great average, great strike rate and sub 25 average against & in every country.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
OverratedSanity said:
Not really. Probably just that he had a shorter career than some other ATG bowlers.
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I do think it's one of the reasons he has prettier numbers for checklist freaks though - a bigger percentage of his career was "peak" without a "picked too early on potential" phase or the "played on beyond his best because he was still better than a mediocre second change bowler from domestic cricket" phase that can often make someone's record in X country look worse than it deserves.

(And yes, a bigger reason for it was that was one of the very best and most adaptable bowlers of all time, but I still think the above is at least a minor factor)
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
subshakerz said:
Then he will be demerited for not enough of a career sample or length.

He will go down as a normal great/ATVG like Garner who could have been ATG.

I believe in putting stricter standards for those given that ATG bowler title.
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The reasoning is simple.

If Wasim retired once he reached 300 wickets, would likely have been rated several places higher than when he eventually retired. Same with Imran in 1988.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
DrWolverine said:
81 matches was good especially for someone who retired in 1991.

Hadlee : 86 Tests.
Imran : 88 Tests
Donald : 72 Tests
Steyn : 93 Tests
Ambrose : 98 Tests

The other greats played similar amount of Tests
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To me it's not just tests, I think you need well over a decade in the game to be proven in it, which Marshall was.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
DrWolverine said:
81 matches was good especially for someone who retired in 1991.

Hadlee : 86 Tests.
Imran : 88 Tests
Donald : 72 Tests
Steyn : 93 Tests
Ambrose : 98 Tests

The other greats played similar amount of Tests
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Marshall's career was much shorter than Imran and Hadlee in terms of years. Number of games is highly dependent on how many your team plays. Marshall played from 78-91, but really was a regular only from 83 onwards. So prime stuff of his international career was over a span of 8 years, which is kinda short when compared to other ATGs like McGrath and Hadlee.
 
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