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Irfan Pathan!

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
yohanna said:
what do you make of commets like "move over Akhter and Lee, Munaf is here"??
Excitement of discovering water fountain in Sahara.

But did you really stop there, You should have read furthur and it doesn't mention Lee, Akhtar again.

Try reading it again. and please do let me know when you find someone saying Zaheer & Nehra better than Akram.
 

yohanna

Banned
Sanz said:
Excitement of discovering water fountain in Sahara.

But did you really stop there, You should have read furthur and it doesn't mention Lee, Akhtar again.

That writer was overly excited, so much so that the guy forgot that he was suppose to write and article on Munaf and not on Akhter.


Try reading it again. and please do let me know when you find someone saying Zaheer & Nehra better than Akram.
I never even claimed that , i said that Indian fans were saying that Zaheer Nad Nehra were the best left armers in the world and Nehra being the young Akram.I will provide you the link in near future.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
yohanna said:
No, that was just one example, a lot was said about Munaf in Indian press, infact some sane elements did realise that they were putting too much pressure on a promissing youngster by raising expectations
show me one which sayd Munaf is better than Lee, Akhtar etc...



I said that both brags, but Indians on this forum are more notorious. As for Yasir Hameed being new Sachin, i haven't read such a post on this forum.Afridi on the other hand has been bashed by Indian fans on this forum rather harshly.

Thats how you want to see them, no one claims Afridi to be Viv Richards, maybe you are imagining things.
Cricketweb is not the end of Internet. If you wish to be enlightened please let me know, I can show you the bragging by Pakistani brothers.



Indian pacer L Balaji which was praised so highly that the guy was eventually ridiculed on this forum when he went for sixes in his frrst match.
On the contarary not one Indian I know had given Balaji a chance in Australia. Most of us thought he was a useless bowler.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
yohanna said:
That writer was overly excited, so much so that the guy forgot that he was suppose to write and article on Munaf and not on Akhter.
And he did write the article on Munaf, You need to read beyond the first sentence.




I never even claimed that , i said that Indian fans were saying that Zaheer Nad Nehra were the best left armers in the world and Nehra being the young Akram.I will provide you the link in near future.
Please, I will be waiting.
 

yohanna

Banned
Sanz said:
show me one which sayd Munaf is better than Lee, Akhtar etc...



STOP imagining things. I never said that the anyone was claiming that Munaf was better or not, just the fact that a rookie is being compared to leading pacers sound stupid to me.

By the way there was a thread on this article, just go through it.

http://forum.cricketweb.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4775



Cricketweb is not the end of Internet. If you wish to be enlightened please let me know, I can show you the bragging by Pakistani brothers.
Atleast on two occasions i have acknowledge the fact that some Pak fans does brag, yet this guys goes on and on.


On the contarary not one Indian I know had given Balaji a chance in Australia. Most of us thought he was a useless bowler.
YAWN ! Well then you are ignorant.
 

yohanna

Banned
Sanz said:
And he did write the article on Munaf, You need to read beyond the first sentence.


Enough said on that crappy article, had a Pakistani writer written such an article i would have critisize him rather than defend such an idiot.

Please, I will be waiting.
Well Marc did verify my statement., didn't he? still if you need proof then i will post the link later.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
yohanna said:
By the way there was a thread on this article, just go through it.

http://forum.cricketweb.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4775
That article and thread do not prove anything - No one in that thread claims Munaf as the next best thing. Forget Akhtar in that thread some Indians even think T yohanan is better than Munaf.(not that I disagree with them) ;)

As for me being an ignorant - why dont you show me the posts of Indians who claimed Balaji as their GOD.

So far you have not backed up anything you have been saying in last 20 posts of yours.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
yohanna said:
Enough said on that crappy article, had a Pakistani writer written such an article i would have critisize him rather than defend such an idiot.
Article minus the heading & first couple of sentenses was pretty reasonable. If the first few lines hurt you so much - just skip them and read the rest. Btw - Did you get a chance to read about the latest article about Iftikhar Rao who is the next Mcgrath.

I would still like to read the post by someone(you have been claiming all along) who thinks Nehra/Zaheer/Irfan/Munaf are better or as good as Akram or even compared them to Akram. I just want to know .
 

yohanna

Banned
That article and thread do not prove anything - No one in that thread claims Munaf as the next best thing.
The article actually doesn't prove anything except that the author is an idiot.

The author says "So, if you imagine Patel in the national squad, you would be looking at world's most formidable pace attack. And backed by the world's best batting line-up, the next world series could just be India's."


Now even with Akhter, Pakistan bowling isn't the best in the world, so how on Earth Indian bowling attack can become the World's most formidible with the inclusion of a pacer? Unless the pacer happens to be the best ever in the history, its not possible.So you aren't juts looking at the next best thing, you are looking at the best thing ever!!



As for me being an ignorant - why dont you show me the posts of Indians who claimed Balaji as their GOD.So far you have not backed up anything you have been saying in last 20 posts of yours.
"Once Balaji comes into Indian team, its bowling attack will become the best in world" this was claimed by Balaji's greatest admirer Choora. Now go and search for such posts urself.







Article minus the heading & first couple of sentenses was pretty reasonable. If the first few lines hurt you so much - just skip them and read the rest. Btw - Did you get a chance to read about the latest article about Iftikhar Rao who is the next Mcgrath.
Only an unreasonable man can defend such an unreasonable article.

AS for artcle on Ifti, the Author never called him the next Glen, all he said about Ifti's was "And it can't be a bad thing if your action is likened to the dominant fast-medium bowler of the last decade, Glenn McGrath" And that article was more about the upcomming Pak pacers rather just an individual, and few can deny that Pak still continue to produce quality pacers (just look at Pacers result at the recent U-19 WC).
 

yohanna

Banned
Sanz said:


I would still like to read the post by someone(you have been claiming all along) who thinks Nehra/Zaheer/Irfan/Munaf are better or as good as Akram or even compared them to Akram. I just want to know .
Well my comments were varified by Marc, still so much doubt in ur mind.

Here is one in praise of Nehra & KHan by Vandemataram
http://forum.cricketweb.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3473&highlight=young+akram.

Their are countless others in praise of the legendary pacers, but i just can't go and start searching for them.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
All these articles and people saying things about Indian fast bowling is all bullshit anyway.

Its just that India hasn't had a decent fast bowler since Kapil or Srinath and its really starting to annoy some of the Indian supporters.

So except over the moon hype if any fast bowler seems even 'slightly' promising.

But in the end, its all bullshit.
 

Bouncer

State Regular
masterblaster said:


Its just that India hasn't had a decent fast bowler since Kapil or Srinath and its really starting to annoy some of the Indian supporters.
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MB i really appreciate these comments by you, i think this is partly true coz as i have noticed that Fast bowlers are not the one one's that are hyped up by indian media, its every thing which is NEW, which can SELL, Indian Media willl brag about about it coz it helps it Sell ITSELF.

Now i sincerely hope that u dont take my this observation as a Pakistani and only as a cricket fan coz believe it or not never ever, i have seen cricket for pak, its always been other way around for me.
 

warrioryohannan

U19 Cricketer
Sanz said:
Excitement of discovering water fountain in Sahara.

But that article made it more like an Ocean rather than just a water fountain.

That writer always comes up with stupid article, latest in the lines is "Baroda Bombers" ( thats how he like to refer to Zaheer and Pathan). But there are plenty of other good articles , it will be better to just avoid reading this writer's article.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Yeah Exactly,

HYPE gets newspapers to sell, not just stale old boring articles.

Hype creates the profits for the media,

The hype isn't true always, but it needs to be done.

To keep the economy rolling....... :)
 

V Reddy

International Debutant
Only Choora rated Balaji that much and others were rubbishing him. Vandemataram compared Nehra to Young Akram and now Ajaagarkaraja compares Indian players to Gods. So i agree with you that some Indians forummers messages on this forum have been pretty funny/stupid . Some Indian forummers comments have been absurd on this forum but it is the same case with Pakistanis and some other forums.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
And Its not just Indian Media, its all media all over the world.

Nationality is irrelevant.

All media works in the same way.

Hype sells, just like *** does.....
 

warrioryohannan

U19 Cricketer
Bouncer said:

Now i sincerely hope that u dont take my this observation as a Pakistani and only as a cricket fan coz believe it or not never ever, i have seen cricket for pak, its always been other way around for me.
Cricket is religion in India, i don't think Pakistanis takes cricket so seriously as do the Indians.Many will disagree with me on it but its a fact that in India cricketers are worshipped as if they were Gods and cricket stadium are always full to capacity (regardless of who the oponent is) but in Pakistan the stadium is often deserted.

I do beleive some Pak players are hyped up as well, Afridi isn't regarded highly as claimed by Sanz, but i remember Mansoor Akhter (former Pak bater) was often described as the next King VIv by Pakistanis.
 

Bouncer

State Regular
warrioryohannan said:
Cricket is religion in India, i don't think Pakistanis takes cricket so seriously as do the Indians.
I agree 100 %.

Now since we are reching some mutual opinion in this thread, why dont we just agree over one thing that will really bring us together in the spirit of the game " that Pakistan plays better cricket than India, eventhough the Pakistani people are not half as much as crazy about the game as their neighbours.":D
 

warrioryohannan

U19 Cricketer
Bouncer said:
I agree 100 %.

Now since we are reching some mutual opinion in this thread, why dont we just agree over one thing that will really bring us together in the spirit of the game " that Pakistan plays better cricket than India, eventhough the Pakistani people are not half as much as crazy about the game as their neighbours.":D

I would say that Pakistan used to play better cricket than India, but that is no longer the case:D
I think with the retirement of W's and some senior batsmen like Anwar, Pakistan isn't such a strong team anymore.

I think India is going to beat Pak in comming series:saint:
 

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