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India v/s Sri Lanka - Who's the better team

delkap

State Vice-Captain
LankanPrince said:
Ahh now the Sri Lanka we saw beat India on Sunday really looks the business. The talk about Sri Lanka having a major problem with their batting is unfounded. It is true that Sanath Jayasuriya is past his prime and is struggling for form. But in Mahela Jayawardene, Kumar Sangakkara and Marvan Atapattu we have a trio of world class, talented (maybe not always consistent) batsman. They really picked the substandard Indian bowling apart. Irfan Pathan was the only bowler who bowled with aggression and consistency. Anil Kumble is nothing more than a mediocre medium pace bowler and Zaheer Khan needs to sort out his fitness. India should recall Ashish Nehra, he is one of their most explosive fast bowlers.

At the moment in Asia Cup I think definitely Pakistan and Sri Lanka have the superior bowling attacks. The Murali myth should now be gone from those confused Indian fans he is not the only good bowler. As you can see your best batsman (Sehwag, Ganguly and 'The Little Master!') had problems facing Nuwan Zoysa who in my eyes is the best Sri Lankan bowler at the moment.

India have two big problems: overconfidence and complacency. Their lack of motivation was clearly exposed on Sunday. I think Virender Sehwag needs to stop exercising his mouth and stop pursuing ridiculous personal targets (namely 200 in ODI cricket). Tendulkar really needs to regain his title of 'Little Master' which seems more like 'Big Choker' at the moment!

Sri Lanka may not be the best team in the world and for this reason they are not complacent. They are moderate and realistic in their goals. Their focus and determination helped them to convincingly beat the lack lustre Indians on Sunday. India should learn a damn good lesson from their C*ap performance on Sunday: do not assume that their individual 11 superstars are necessarily the best team.
The SL you saw beating India is the same Lankan team which lost to Aus 3-0 at home and 1-0 in Aus. And Ind is the same Indian team which drew 1-1 in Aus

Who's better? I think its simply ur bias talking.. 1 match by 12 runs margin in an inconsequential game is hardly worth bragging abt, wht has sl done lately that makes u say they r a better team NOW ???
 

tooextracool

International Coach
delkap said:
1 match by 12 runs margin in an inconsequential game is hardly worth bragging abt
one must say that it wasnt as close as it looks either......SL beat india in every department in that game.
but yes i agree with you that it was only one game, and just like i predicted at the start of the series,despite certain ppl wondering how a team that lost to australia so miserably would be able to compete in the asia cup, SL are a very competitive team at home!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
delkap said:
The SL you saw beating India is the same Lankan team which lost to Aus 3-0 at home and 1-0 in Aus. And Ind is the same Indian team which drew 1-1 in Aus

Yes, and both teams are the same teams that took part in SL beating India...
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
Yes, and both teams are the same teams that took part in SL beating India...
i dont think u got my point..
we saw what each is capable of.. which shows indian team is actually better
sl is only competitive in sl. Anywhere else they cant win regularly...
 

tooextracool

International Coach
delkap said:
i dont think u got my point..
we saw what each is capable of.. which shows indian team is actually better
sl is only competitive in sl. Anywhere else they cant win regularly...
how exactly are they better? SL may have lost 3-1 to australia but india lost 5-1 in the vb series......
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
i was talking abt tests...

in odis sl played at home on slow pitches and it was 3-2
ind played on good batting tracks except kolkata, and it was 3-1..
at aus ind competed better in first 3 matches then lost it..
I dont think SL would hv been able to compete to tht level in Aus..

At home though SL is a different team like u said earlier..
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
delkap said:
i dont think u got my point..
we saw what each is capable of..
And the other day also shows what both are capable of.

Why do we compare performances against a 3rd party (which incidentally by no means remained constant between those series) to distinguish between 2 sides?
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
And the other day also shows what both are capable of.

Why do we compare performances against a 3rd party (which incidentally by no means remained constant between those series) to distinguish between 2 sides?
Cos I guess Aussies are the current benchmark in cricket.. like Windies in 70-80s
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Or is it because it suits the arguments of the Indian fans?

The injuries etc suffered and changes in strength of the Australian team make the comparisions using them as a 3rd party futile.
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
Or is it because it suits the arguments of the Indian fans?

The injuries etc suffered and changes in strength of the Australian team make the comparisions using them as a 3rd party futile.
Regardless of injuries they r still the better team... And Indians hv only played Aus, Pak and NZ after the WC. Aus is the only common tour with SL, hence the comparision ... If SL played Pak, I'll use that...
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
Why does it have to be after the world cup?

And why can't a direct comparision be used?
The Indian team has only improved since the WC, b4 that it was inconsistent and sometimes crap... IMO success at WC gave em the self-confidence to go further...
 

Swervy

International Captain
delkap said:
The Indian team has only improved since the WC, b4 that it was inconsistent and sometimes crap... IMO success at WC gave em the self-confidence to go further...
well yes I think this is a good Indian team...but results arent really showing this...since the world cup India have played 30 ODI (including 2 No Result games)...they have won 15 and lost 13...and those wins include 3 vs bangladesh,1 vs UAE, and 4 vs Zimbabwe.

Against decent opponents,

vs South Africa W1 L1
vs Australia W2 L8
vs NZ W1 L1
vs SriL W0 L1
vs Pak W3 L2

and in tests since the world cup, in 9 tests...India have won 3 and lost 2
 
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Deja moo

International Captain
nookie_lk said:
oh Deja moo i guess u can eat ur own words now mate..... sri lanka cant beat india my ASS !!!

All right ,I'll eat them now.....but I still think SL are due for a whipping by India in the 2 remaining meetings .
 

youngster_89

Cricket Spectator
I think that anything could happen

I think it would it would be close match because if Sri lanka get early wickets they could win and force India onto the back foot :dry:
 

dude

School Boy/Girl Captain
i noticed all the biased indians on this post goind "india..india...deff india... tendulkar...indiai blahh..blah... yada yada.."

india has played 28 ODI's in SL and have won only 8. SL scored 900+ runs against india ina test... my point is in SL india have not performed.

if you look at the all time record between india and SL in ODI's they'v played 77, india has won 40 and SL has 30. now this may appear as india being the stronger side but this statistic contains matches played before 1996 when SL was not a dominant force in world cricket. if you look at the stats after 1996 the two teams have played 36. india has won 15 and SL 17. which is way closer than most think.

right now even though india does have pathan and balaji and others who perform well against a self destructive pakistani side, it will be hard going against a much hardend sri lankan out fit thats been really tested against australia.
 

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