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India v/s Sri Lanka - Who's the better team

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
dude said:
if you look at the all time record between india and SL in ODI's they'v played 77, india has won 40 and SL has 30. now this may appear as india being the stronger side but this statistic contains matches played before 1996 when SL was not a dominant force in world cricket. if you look at the stats after 1996 the two teams have played 36. india has won 15 and SL 17. which is way closer than most think.
And if you look from 1998, India has won 14, Lanka 9. It just depends where you want to start. Look I am not saying that Lanka is a bad team. I think they are as good as India if not better but producing selective stats to prove a point isn't going to work in your favor.
 

Swervy

International Captain
Sanz said:
And if you look from 1998, India has won 14, Lanka 9. It just depends where you want to start. Look I am not saying that Lanka is a bad team. I think they are as good as India if not better but producing selective stats to prove a point isn't going to work in your favor.
you are right sanz......

if you look at the figures of India vs SL in the last week, you will see SL are unbeatable.. :D
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
Swervy said:
well yes I think this is a good Indian team...but results arent really showing this...since the world cup India have played 30 ODI (including 2 No Result games)...they have won 15 and lost 13...and those wins include 3 vs bangladesh,1 vs UAE, and 4 vs Zimbabwe.

Against decent opponents,

vs South Africa W1 L1
vs Australia W2 L8
vs NZ W1 L1
vs SriL W0 L1
vs Pak W3 L2

and in tests since the world cup, in 9 tests...India have won 3 and lost 2
Thats true,
but only team to dominate India has been Australia. But then they hv dominated everyone they hv played over past 4 years. They are undoubtably no.1 Other than that India has been very competitive.

Also mind you 3-2 in tests was all away from home. That too in Pak and Aus, which is difficult to acheive...
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
delkap said:
Thats true,
but only team to dominate India has been Australia. But then they hv dominated everyone they hv played over past 4 years. They are undoubtably no.1 Other than that India has been very competitive.

Over the last 4 years?

Won 14 (Aus 3, Eng 2, Zim 3, SL 1, WI 3, Pak 2) lost 12 (Aus 2, Zim 1, SL 2, SA 1, NZ 2, Eng 1, Pak 1, WI 2) you mean?

That's not what I'd call "very" competitive, and certainly not worthy of number 2 in the World.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
The Lankans have better bowlers, while the Indians have better batsmen. This is where fielding makes a difference. That Sehwag runout won the match for SL, while many throws by Indian fielders missed the stumps. The average Indian attack would be far more effective if the fielders put more pressure on the batsmen by stopping easy runs. You have to take runs between wickets if not over the boundary. Those extra runs run, the great catch, the fabulous run-out, all can win matches. Sometimes, I think Yuvraj Singh would make a better captain because of this.

The Lankan bowlers also bowled intelligently, and the Indians should learn a thing or two from them. Nuwan Zoysa is not far better than his opposition counterpart, so if Balaji bowled straight, he would have been far more effective. You don't win matches by bowling wides.

The 10 lottery overs cost the Indians yet another match. The Indians have to have at least 7 overs of those bowled by a regular. Tendulkar's bowling fails miserably against good batsmen, beause of which he's simply not reliable, and should be called only when the main bowlers are out of form. Sehwag is good enough to bowl 7 overs in every match (his ODI bowling average drops to 33 when he bowls more than 7 overs) and that will give him a lot of practice. The Lankans are a better bowling side in the middle overs, but they have a great off-spinner with them. But they use their main bowler to attack- the Indians used Kumble as a defensive option.
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
Over the last 4 years?

Won 14 (Aus 3, Eng 2, Zim 3, SL 1, WI 3, Pak 2) lost 12 (Aus 2, Zim 1, SL 2, SA 1, NZ 2, Eng 1, Pak 1, WI 2) you mean?

That's not what I'd call "very" competitive, and certainly not worthy of number 2 in the World.
I meant Aus hv dominated everyone over past 4 years.. Obviously not India !!
U dicount Aus matches for all countries, and Ind has done well in last 1 year..
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
The Australians have hammered the Indians out of most ODI's.

Besides, #2 means nothing. With the Asutralinas so far ahead of #2, that's ZILCH. The opposition should aim for #1 instead; only then does #2 have any meaning.
 

Waughney

International Debutant
Arjun said:
The Australians have hammered the Indians out of most ODI's.

Besides, #2 means nothing. With the Asutralinas so far ahead of #2, that's ZILCH. The opposition should aim for #1 instead; only then does #2 have any meaning.
You don't think they are already doing that?
 

biased indian

International Coach
Arjun said:
The Australians have hammered the Indians out of most ODI's.

Besides, #2 means nothing. With the Asutralinas so far ahead of #2, that's ZILCH. The opposition should aim for #1 instead; only then does #2 have any meaning.
its true that u have to be number 1 but being number 2 is not that bad
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Waughney said:
You don't think they are already doing that?
If a team's players make so many ad shoots in the off-season, do you think they really want to step up? Their performances in the Asia Cup have been pathetic.

biased indian said:
its true that u have to be number 1 but being number 2 is not that bad
As long as you're REALLY close to #1.
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
Arjun said:
If a team's players make so many ad shoots in the off-season, do you think they really want to step up? Their performances in the Asia Cup have been pathetic.

As long as you're REALLY close to #1.
What performances in Asia Cup ? Just one 12 run loss to SL, and u r out to crucify em..

Which international player doesn't make money off sponsorships ? It's part of the fame, noone is gonna deny any money. And btw they do like 4-5 ads a year, say 10 at most. Thats simply 10 days away from cricket in 1 year. Thats not asking too much is it ??

PS: Arjun you AlexKumar are making it a habit to say stupid things which dont mean much...
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What performances in Asia Cup ? Just one 12 run loss to SL, and u r out to crucify em..
One loss? More like yet another loss! They have won just 8 of 29 matches against SL!

Which international player doesn't make money off sponsorships ? It's part of the fame, noone is gonna deny any money. And btw they do like 4-5 ads a year, say 10 at most. Thats simply 10 days away from cricket in 1 year. Thats not asking too much is it ??

PS: Arjun you AlexKumar are making it a habit to say stupid things which dont mean much...
When the Indians played the first match of the Asia Cup, I saw at least 2/3 ads in ESPNSTAR which had an Indian cricketer. That annoys me a lot. A few here and there, like the Australians, won't matter much. But the Indian players do a lot of ads. That time could be used better by playing county cricket- that would give them match practice. Every time they take a break, they return, playing like the current German football team- they're very scratchy. Sure, they just lost one match, but they never looked professional, like the Lankans. Which is why those hardcore Lankan fans have made valid points.
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
Arjun said:
One loss? More like yet another loss! They have won just 8 of 29 matches against SL!

When the Indians played the first match of the Asia Cup, I saw at least 2/3 ads in ESPNSTAR which had an Indian cricketer. That annoys me a lot. A few here and there, like the Australians, won't matter much. But the Indian players do a lot of ads. That time could be used better by playing county cricket- that would give them match practice. Every time they take a break, they return, playing like the current German football team- they're very scratchy. Sure, they just lost one match, but they never looked professional, like the Lankans. Which is why those hardcore Lankan fans have made valid points.
Only reason Indian cricketers do more ads, is bcos Indians r a more cricket crazy nation, and marketing says: whats popular, sells. Hence the cricketers in ads...

Now, as for they could use that time for a better use, I dubt it.. its only a few days in off-season. If u play cricket throughout, u r risking burn-out esp for a tea like India which too much as it is...

Its not THAT big a deal they were scratchy in one game, they were playing after a long time, while SL played recently.. and they were trying to find the right balance...
Lets see wht the do in next few months b4 labeling them complacent, chokers, etc.

Although IMO they wouldn't be any one of those...
 

alexkumar

Banned
This is not even a question.

Sri lankans by a mile.

Sri Lankans beating the crap out of Indians again.

Indians need to re organize. They lack fire power in bowling and attitude in batting.

I see yuvaraj,kaif , parthiv and balaji as a failures.

later.
 

alexkumar

Banned
If india gets jayasurya , india can bounce back and win this game. The probabilty is very slim though. Now 237/6. with Jayasurya and chandana at the crease.

lets see whether indians have luck or not. I doubt it.

later
 

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