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If i was an indian selector........................

krishneelz

U19 Debutant
kumble is a nice guy who wouldnt say a bad thing about anyone but if i was a indian selector it would be hard to drop him because there isnt really too many better than him since india has had a wicket keeping drought or do they?
 

shaka

International Regular
it is still match conditions, so i doubt he would bash the keeper in the middle of an evenly poised test match, maybe if he was to complain he would do that once the test / test series is over.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
To continue with Parthiv at this stage would be extremely unfair to the youngster. Forget who is better or worse. His confidence must be absolutely shattered. Have mercy on him. He will completely disintegerate mentally if he has to go through another experience like this.

He has kept badly no doubt but it is getting worse literally with every ball he keeps to.

Even he is not as bad as this. Now it is not a bad keeper that we are seeing but a sportsman whose confidence level is at an abysmal low. There is no way anyone who has his interest at heart will ask him to keep wickets in the next test.

Dravid was seen on live TV telling him , from slips, what he should be doing behind the stumps. All those colleagues and ex cricketers who are showing him sympathy and not castigating him in print today are doing it because they are all aware of what the guy must be going through not because they believe he is the one who should be keeping for India today !!
 

Spetsnatz

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
krishneelz said:
kumble is a nice guy who wouldnt say a bad thing about anyone but if i was a indian selector it would be hard to drop him because there isnt really too many better than him since india has had a wicket keeping drought or do they?
India have options - Dinesh Karthik and Mahendra Singh Dhoni are two young keepers who have acquitted themselves well at A team level.

But I suspect India will probably stick with Parthiv for the remainder of the Australian series.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Rumour mill is saying the same 14/15 will continue. Which means we may just see Yuvraj go if Sachin comes
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Spetsnatz said:
India have options - Dinesh Karthik and Mahendra Singh Dhoni are two young keepers who have acquitted themselves well at A team level.

But I suspect India will probably stick with Parthiv for the remainder of the Australian series.
Hopefully Dinesh or Mahen will get the India cap when the South Africans come in December. They should, and there's no harm.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
If I was an Indian selector....

I would be ashamed of showing my face in public. Why do we have to continue with the same 14 (one cahnge forced by injury). Why cant they decide who will open and drop the third guy (Assuming it will be two out of Sehwag, Yuvraj and Chpra) at least this will give a youngster like Jadhav (even if they dont want to play him, the chance to get a feel of the dressing room and also be rewarded for a good season AND get some motivation that I am 'on the fringe'

This 'taking care of my flock' policy of Ganguly cant be defended on the grounds of sticking to his players. It is totally demoralising for the youngsters who havent a clue as to what they need to do to catch attention.

We claim , and with some justification, that the domestic circuit is not a 'testing' enough arena. So they can at least expect that when others fail (and miserably so as in the case of the wicket keeper) this will allow them a foothold into the squad. This way they might as well give up.

It is informed that Sriram was not even discussed. No one knows why.

Sadgoppan Ramesh was discussed and discarded, maybe he is not young enough !!!!

Jadhav was discussed and discarded. Maybe he was found not old enough !!!

Dhoni was discussed and discarded. Maybe because his keeping is not as good as his batting !!!

Dinesh Karthik was discussed and discarded because his batting is not as good as his keeping !!!

Ganguly has defended Parthiv on the grounds that he had only one bad match . Clearly the skipper has a problem counting beyond one !!!

PLUS I suppose they found a big plus in Parthiv's case that his batting is vastly superior to his keeping !!!

Maybe they rejected all the youngsters because they have played and performed only in domestic cricket (ignoring that they havent had any other opportunities) and discarded Ramesh and Das because they HAVENT performed in domestic competition !!!

This is not a selection committee, this is a rubber stamp. I suppose Mr Dalmiya, with the politicians and half the state units against him, doesnt want to upset the captain at this time of lack of comrades for himself.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Maybe over the keeper's position they don't actually think that anyone else mentioned can be as effective?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Maybe over the keeper's position they don't actually think that anyone else mentioned can be as effective?
Todays papers confirm that the selectors thought otherwise but the skipper insisted on sticking with 'Papa's' boy !!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
I don't tend to believe much the papers write to be honest - they have to fill space (and sell units) so need stories, whether true or not, the only stipulation is that they're sensational.
 

krishneelz

U19 Debutant
If india plugs in Dinesh Karthik they would save around atleast 10 of those patel byes and then is batting is not to shabby and if he makes around 23 runs he would be gaining india 33 runs a better average than patel. If patel averaged 50 odd maybe i would see a case but hes not so i think these indian selectors and ganguly are unbelievable
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
krishneelz said:
If india plugs in Dinesh Karthik they would save around atleast 10 of those patel byes and then is batting is not to shabby and if he makes around 23 runs he would be gaining india 33 runs a better average than patel. If patel averaged 50 odd maybe i would see a case but hes not so i think these indian selectors and ganguly are unbelievable
Add to that the runs the opposition scores on account of Parthiv's playing Santa !! :D
 
suggested teams -

tests -

sehwag
jadhav
dravid
tendulkar
laxman (c)
kaif
karthik (w)
pathan
kumble
harbhajan
bhandari

odis -

sehwag
gambhir
dhoni (w)
tendulkar
laxman (c)
dravid
kaif
powar
pathan
harbhajan
bhandari
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I think a lot of the posts in this thread (if not all) have all brought up some very good points. Honestly, I would love to see Dinesh Karthik get a game in. But I think India did the reasonable thing by sticking with Parthiv. Sure, he keeps as if he has holes in his gloves, but he did well with the bat. Who knows, with some encouragement and a LOT of hardwork, he might do better the next test. And if he is still not good, he can be dropped and make way for Dinesh against the South Africans. And I think Yuvi should make way for Sachin at Nagpur. And Agarkar can take the place vacated by Pathan. Otherwise, I don't see too much wrong with the present side, except that they should get into better form, and that soon.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
out with agarkar and as soon as hes passed fit put balaji back in the side, there is no need to be wasting tim with agarkar.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
well, I mean, with Balaji being unfit at the moment, obviously Agarkar has to play. When Balaji comes back, whoever is in the better form can play.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
The lesser seen of home-turf-heroes like Agarkar and Balaji the better. Bhandari, Salvi and Steam Ship Paul are better picks.
 

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