If i was an indian selector........................

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Boycott is almost always right.

Lol. I'm sure he'd agree with you.

Could someone explain why? When average tailenders and struggling has-beens are making merry against this attack, what do the World XI trio fear?

Is someone not doing their job?

I'm probably just tired from studying Bio for most of the day, but I don't understand that comment... certainly not in the context of mine which you responded to.

 

[tooextracool]

Yet I tend to rate Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman a tad higher than I do Sehwag.

you rate them higher because they have better temperaments and probably better techniques, not because they are more or less capable of striking the ball. when it comes to smashing bowlers out off the park, sehwag is probably far more capable then all of them.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

you rate them higher because they have better temperaments and probably better techniques, not because they are more or less capable of striking the ball. when it comes to smashing bowlers out off the park, sehwag is probably far more capable then all of them.

As you stated first - temperament. They can all strike the ball authoritatively, but they tend to do it more sensibly than Sehwag. No one can doubt that Sehwag gets carried away with his attack.

Being positive is not attacking everything in sight to unsettle the bowlers. It's when you look bat with a mind to score rather than stay in. The Australian bowlers were allowed to settle into machine-like rhythm because the Indians didn't make then vary from their game plan.

 

[krishneelz]

laxman looks like warnes new daryl. All he does these days is get out to warne. So IMO he should open in the next test

 

[krishneelz]

My new squad. Since india hs lost the series why not try someone new

1.Jadhav (Chopra is not a solution)
2.Laxman (Sehwag says he wants to bat down the order)
3.Dravid
4.Rydhu (tendulkar should be rested)
5. Rao (good season)
6. Sehwag (bowl more of his off spinners)
7. Kaif (played ok so far)
8. Karthik (wicket keeping solution)
9. Mirsha/ Sundeep singh/ Kumble/ Harbs (mirsha deserves a spot singh has been consistant kumble is a legend and so is harbs. This should be the selectors only problem)
10. Salvi (said to be a Mcgrath clone)
11. Khan (Has been unlucky to pickup more wickets)

12th man Yuvraj (good feilder)

I would pick Sriram instead of rydhu but hes 28.

Pathan and Balaji would be considered if fit

If new players such as Karthik, Jadhav, Rydhu, Rao, Salvi and Mirsha perform well against australia then their would be more depth in the indian squad and the team would not be shocked with the retirement of dravid, tendulkar, laxman, kumble, ganguly but if they do not introduce new talent then that might have the same impact as it had on the great west indian team of the 70's/80's

 

[krishneelz]

I can assure you this will not occur and the bloody selector will pick the following players

1. patel
2. Sehwag
3. Dravid
5. tendulkar
6. laxman
7. ganguly
8. kaif (depends on his second innings if <50 then murali karthik/pathan/harbs)
9. ??? harbs/pathan
10. Kumble
11. khan


Another boring same old line up.

 

[tooextracool]

As you stated first - temperament. They can all strike the ball authoritatively, but they tend to do it more sensibly than Sehwag. No one can doubt that Sehwag gets carried away with his attack.

Being positive is not attacking everything in sight to unsettle the bowlers. It's when you look bat with a mind to score rather than stay in. The Australian bowlers were allowed to settle into machine-like rhythm because the Indians didn't make then vary from their game plan.

i see your point, selective hitting. personally ive always thought the best way to play mcgrath was to come down the track ifirst up and try to smash his perfect length deliveries for 4, gets him to bowl shorter.
however i fear none of the indian batsmen at the moment bar sehwag have the confidence to do that.

 

[biased indian]

And How many players have done it succefully.i do remember sachin once doing it in the icc trophy in nairobi

 

[SJS]

i see your point, selective hitting. personally ive always thought the best way to play mcgrath was to come down the track ifirst up and try to smash his perfect length deliveries for 4, gets him to bowl shorter.
however i fear none of the indian batsmen at the moment bar sehwag have the confidence to do that.

Yes. You have a point there. He is really bowling a tantalising length with just enough movement (not too much) to cause a problem if you dont read early which way its going to move.

I am really surprised at top players like Sachin being unable to read his movement and constantly play the wrong line. It might, just might be a good ploy to stand well outside the crease to him and make him shorten his length so that more deliveries, going away can be left alone. Provided you can read them , of course.

 

[Arjun]

I'm probably just tired from studying Bio for most of the day

On a side note, I never really had much affinity for that subject myself, and just as I thought I would have seen the last of it as an Engineering student, it returns in another form!

Wat do you do with Chopra? If your best opener is having a rough time, do you keep him for a longer time (as with Parthiv Patel and Ajit Agarkar) or just send him back to get his form back? And who are good enough to replace him?

This Indian team seems to be headed the West Indian way. Should the entire top 6 be cleaned up and replaced by the A-team? They haev been losing almost every match in three months and don't look like they're winning, while the A-team has been in beter form, and they're also playing a lot better than the main team. Of course, they had a more active coach in Sandeep Patil, who worked on all skills, with all the players, rather than just on a few batting skills with the 6 specialist batsmen. The BCCI owes Sandeep an apology, and should reinstate him as national coach.

 

[Arjun]

Should India do a Pakistan and drop 8 of their high-profile players? Then wait till they all return to form, then get them back one after another.

 

[masterblaster]

Should India do a Pakistan and drop 8 of their high-profile players? Then wait till they all return to form, then get them back one after another.

Don't think so mate, Rahul, Sachin and Laxman should fancy themselves against South Africa at home, and we dont want to lose two series back to back do we.

I do agree in dropping Parthiv Patel, Yuvraj Singh and Akash Chopra from this side and bringing in Dinesh Karthik, Sridharan Sriram and Gautam Gambhir as replacements.

Thats all I would do if I were a selector. Dropping all the high profile players would do more harm (and chaos) than good.

 

[Arjun]

Don't think so mate, Rahul, Sachin and Laxman should fancy themselves against South Africa at home, and we dont want to lose two series back to back do we.

I do agree in dropping Parthiv Patel, Yuvraj Singh and Akash Chopra from this side and bringing in Dinesh Karthik, Sridharan Sriram and Gautam Gambhir as replacements.

Thats all I would do if I were a selector. Dropping all the high profile players would do more harm (and chaos) than good.

After a terrible World Cup, the Pakistani selectors dropped not one, not two, but 8 of their key players, and they brought in a lot of young players, and won the first ODI series after that! Besides, this team has been under a lot of pressure, losing many, winning few, so a new-look team have not had this albatross round their neck getting tight, so they would be under a lot less pressure. However, I would also recommend getting back the key players after they return to form, as it happened in PAK. The Ranji Trophy would benefit, by the presence of the star players, which a lot of experts and mediapersons want.

 

[venx86]

Arjun...this is an interesting thread. Over the past few days there has been so much talk about Parthiv Patel and Akaash Chopra. Well if i can also bring in my nose here, I would like to give u an idea of the Pakistani selectors. We often tend to look at the negatives of Pakistani cricket, but what about a move that they made to drop Moin Khan and get in Kamran Akmal ? I rate Kamran Akmal very highly with respect to his wicketkeeping and they are following a simple philosophy that he is a Wicketkeeper first and then a batsman (as in whatever runs he makes are bonus). Why dont we try to take something from that ? Why are we trying to find a Gilchrist when we dont have a good enough keeper ? I guess our priority shud now be to find keepers who can bat a bit ! MS Dhoni impressed everyone with his batting, but his glovework can improve. Dinesh Karthik is the technically best keeper we have in India now and the time has come for the selectors to give him a break.

Sriram has been really unfortunate according to me. He would have got into many international teams by now, but unfortunately not going along with the Indian selectors. I want Dheeraj Jadhav in for Chopra. Chopra has been given enough chances to prove his worth, but i am afraid he's done nothing except those 20s and 30s. Dheeraj has been in great form off late. 3 double centuries and 1 century in a season is no joke. Make that 4 with the one against Kenya ! Its time the selectors get real rather than ideal ! this is one of the problems indian cricket has to over come to COMPETE !

 

[Joao_Quinto]

If I was an Indian selector I would pray every night and day that God would bless us with a bowler, maybe two.

 

[howardj]

I'd be preying - if I was an Indian supporter - that the selectors finally pick another keeper. Let's face it, if it were not for his age, people would be saying that Patel is the very worst specialist keeper to EVER play international cricket.

You just know, from watching this series, that if a stumping opportunity arises, he is guaranteed to miss 90% of them. He is an absolutely appalling wicket-keeper. Sure he is young, but it's performance that matters.

Worse still is that he shows absolutely no sign of improvement. As for his batting ....well, to even break even, he'd need to average at least another 60 runs per innings, to compensate for the missed chances behind the stumps.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

i see your point, selective hitting. personally ive always thought the best way to play mcgrath was to come down the track ifirst up and try to smash his perfect length deliveries for 4, gets him to bowl shorter.
however i fear none of the indian batsmen at the moment bar sehwag have the confidence to do that.

Great minds think a like I guess. That's what I've been preaching. He's a machine. You've got to put some sort of doubt in his mind to throw him off his game plan, otherwise he'll bowl the corridor all day long.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And How many players have done it succefully.i do remember sachin once doing it in the icc trophy in nairobi

I assure you that several players have done it successfully over the years.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Should India do a Pakistan and drop 8 of their high-profile players? Then wait till they all return to form, then get them back one after another.

Don't over-react now. India's still got a pretty decent backbone of a team - Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Kumble, Zaheer, Pathan. They just need to fill in a few spots. That is, 1 (possibly 2) opener(s), 1 or 2 bowlers and a wicketkeeper (not batsman - a wicketkeeper!).

 

[marc71178]

Sriram has been really unfortunate according to me. He would have got into many international teams by now

How do you know that?

I doubt he'd average so highly on less friendly wickets.