luckyeddie
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Chris Schofield actually got to bowl for Lancashire today - 3-14 in 5 overs.
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English Cricket season
- Thread starter chris.hinton
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Langeveldt
Soutie
luckyeddie said:
So sad that things have got to this stage
Anyway i rate Rob Ferley more than Treadwell chris....
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
At the start of the third (?) day's play between Surrey and Derbyshire 2nd XI's, Scott Newman and Nadeem Shahid (Surrey) have currently moved on to 547-0.
The world record partnership for any wicket in any standard of cricket currently stands at 664 (Sachin Tendulkar and Vinod Kambli - St Xavier's High School, Bombay, 1987/88)
The world record partnership for any wicket in any standard of cricket currently stands at 664 (Sachin Tendulkar and Vinod Kambli - St Xavier's High School, Bombay, 1987/88)
chris.hinton
International Captain
This Week is the Terry Jenner Wrist Spin Programme for the best 25 leg spinners in England under the age of 21?
And he was saying that Spinners should take wickets and not have many dot balls and keep the runs down, he also said that 3-57 off 11 is better then 0-18.
And he Mensioned that good Flight gets batsman into trouble and he is hoping that the way the English Coaches and Supporters (Including Marc 71178) can adapt to his way of thinking.... but he said that some people are narrow minded...
Mustaq Mohammed was with him coaching......... today 3 people will go to Australia and get more coaching and a chance to bowl to South Australia
if you ask 20 under 13 leggie who you want to listen to Jenner or an Supporter like Marc71178? who would you listen to?
And he was saying that Spinners should take wickets and not have many dot balls and keep the runs down, he also said that 3-57 off 11 is better then 0-18.
And he Mensioned that good Flight gets batsman into trouble and he is hoping that the way the English Coaches and Supporters (Including Marc 71178) can adapt to his way of thinking.... but he said that some people are narrow minded...
Mustaq Mohammed was with him coaching......... today 3 people will go to Australia and get more coaching and a chance to bowl to South Australia
if you ask 20 under 13 leggie who you want to listen to Jenner or an Supporter like Marc71178? who would you listen to?
chris.hinton
International Captain
why?Tim said:
Tim be serious
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Depends on the context of the game or the makeup of the side in question. A spinner can serve multiple purposes in a side - sometimes, bowling 'negatively' and drying up the runs can be highly beneficial from an attacking sense.
I know that sounds a bit of a contradiction but at school our side hardly lost any games in the 3 years I played in the first XI. We had a really good offie who was extremely accurate - typically going for around 2 runs an over - one game he took 4-8 off about 10 overs.
He didn't often get great bags of wickets but as an attacking strike bowler I used to reap the benefit of his accuracy as invariably batsmen tied down against him would try to attack my bowling - quite often to their cost.
I think the point that Terry Jenner was trying to make was that young leggies shouldn't be AFRAID to concede runs - and not to stop flighting the ball just because someone's getting after you.
I know that sounds a bit of a contradiction but at school our side hardly lost any games in the 3 years I played in the first XI. We had a really good offie who was extremely accurate - typically going for around 2 runs an over - one game he took 4-8 off about 10 overs.
He didn't often get great bags of wickets but as an attacking strike bowler I used to reap the benefit of his accuracy as invariably batsmen tied down against him would try to attack my bowling - quite often to their cost.
I think the point that Terry Jenner was trying to make was that young leggies shouldn't be AFRAID to concede runs - and not to stop flighting the ball just because someone's getting after you.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
You be serious for a moment Chris.chris.hinton said:why?
Tim be serious
You constantly attack me over this, but the conditions in England are not condusive to spin bowling, and that fact will not change.
Until we get a bowler even at FC level who can take wickets, then there is no point in talking about it.
At this moment in time there is one English Leg spinner, and he has consistently failed at Test level.
Show me someone who is good enough to play for England right now and I'll be surprised.
chris.hinton
International Captain
Conditions in England? how does Warne take 40 wickets every series and other leggies do well over here.... erm talking Bollocks is what you are Marcmarc71178 said:
there are 10 who are good enough to play first class cricket. but they are only between (16-19) and it the english coaches thing again? BOWL FLAT
Salisbury you mean? the reason why he failed is that english coaches messed him up by trying to make him bowl flat and it upsetted his Method? also he needed more Mental ability
They will be in the nexy 4 years.... if there is not they i will give you £100 if there is you give me £100......... Deal
chris.hinton
International Captain
Luckyeddie you are talking great sense...luckyeddie said:
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Was Warne brought up over here? No.chris.hinton said:
By the way - 40 wickets every series is actually 34 in 6 matches, 24 in 6 matches and then 31 in 5 matches - a very good record, but more due to the lack of ability in the England line-ups of the time.
Was Mushtaq Ahmed brought up over here? No.
Other leggies? Please name some, because I can't think of any others that are successes over here.
There is no need to insult me for pointing facts out. Conditions here are not right for training spin bowlers.
If they're between 16 and 19, they are not good enough for FC Cricket, that's got nothing to do with making them bowl flat.chris.hinton said:
Oh yes, blame the coaches - it had nothing to do with the fact he was simply not good enough did it?chris.hinton said:
15 matches, 20 wickets @ 76.95 and 3.70 per over are absolutely terrible. Even in County Cricket he only averages 32, so it's not as if he's that good at that level!
In his matches on the sub-continent, which should be his best chance of wickets - 4 wickets in 5 matches at an average of 105.75!!!
Mr Mxyzptlk
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I agree with Marc to an extent. There's a difference between developing spinners in England and spinners coming in and doing well in England. Warne learned to bowl spin outside of England in more spin-friendly conditions. As such, he has risen to become a world-class bowler. Therefore, it is not at all surprising that he would come into England and do well - he's a top bowler!
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Never. That would have meant that over 1,100 runs were scored on the first day. I was questioning whether it was day 3 or day 4.marc71178 said:
Langeveldt
Soutie
If Terry Jenner told me to loop the ball up and not worry about getting hit for six, I would tell him to go back to Australia...
If you keep the pressure on, batsmen make their own mistakes because of the pressure... its like getting wickets for free, interesting concept... And you can always throw in the odd flighted ball just to mix things up a little...
If you keep the pressure on, batsmen make their own mistakes because of the pressure... its like getting wickets for free, interesting concept... And you can always throw in the odd flighted ball just to mix things up a little...
chris.hinton
International Captain
Rubbish you are more likely to get wickets with flighted ballsJacques Rudolph said:
and to tell Jenner to go back to australia you are a bigger idiot then i thought....... i would love to get coaching for jenner but oh course i not a leggie