Dev League Suggestions

[Magrat Garlick]

Giving a certain sim a first team start, Mr. Pickup.

Edfield already has the Seahawks in division two.

I'd also like Morkambe to be the Haddocks.

 

[Jamee999]

I know, it's a B team.

The Morkambe Monkeys was an obscure reference to the band "Artic Monkeys", as you are from around the Artic

But Haddocks it is.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

I just had a idea come to me, probably stupid, but well i will put it forward anyway.

Maybe we could re-locate the current franchies to the three towns that have FC Stadiums (Nixonstown, Campsfield and Edfield) and the two other sides to the towns building stadiums (Goffmouth and Pickford). To keep the colours in the name they could be named something like Pickford Blacks, if you want.

The other towns mentioned for the Grade Comp could be used as Divison 2 sides, that act as feeder clubs. I think feeder clubs are the best option as it allows captains the oppertunity to trial two guys as an opening batting combination or new ball combination.

This also means that the Divison Two comp can run on par with the main comp, interms of the fixture. Also it might reduce the potential workload for David, as you would only have to sim two games a day not five or something.

Just a idea, probably stupid but whatever.

I think it's best if we keep the grade teams fairly separate from the clubs. That way, you might get some new team-mates, and the comp is run independently (that also means less work for us as simmers).

What I've been hammering out with Dave recently is something along these lines:

* Each player gets to pick a team, those who don't bother get assigned randomly (max 8 CW players per team).
* After each Dev League match, the simmers go through the players who have not been picked for the recent round of Dev League games, and use those players for the next round in the grade league. So there's just as many opportunities to play - and even the players in the teams with byes are allowed to play (unless orders come from higher up, such as the team captain or the CWBCC, that the players are to be rested).
* Registered CW members will be favoured over the random members, regardless of simming stats.

As for Jamee's suggested Division Three - I suppose we could have a couple of relegations each year, but it would mean that 10-15 CW players would have to be relocated after each season (since we're probably not going to sim Division Three, and players aren't going to be based there).

 

[David]

Ok, Håk and I have put the FC database together, all we need now is for people to elect which grade team they come from, max 9 CW players per team, first in first served.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I feel a strange affinity with Campsfield.

 

[steds]

As there's no Natham, Stedingham will do for me.

 

[Jamee999]

As a 16 year old I was picked from the Youngshead and Grayham team and shoved into 1st Grade cricket with the Nixontown Foxes, and it didn't take long to get signed up for Cricket Web B.

I'll be a Fox then.

Will CWers be captaining teams?

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Will CWers be captaining teams?

No, because they aren't guaranteed regular game time, and in any case they wouldn't have any influence over tactics.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Probably oughter represent Pickford.

 

[Adamc]

Can't be bothered finding the list of teams so I'll go Campsfield. Probably ought to make some sort of official announcement to get people to sign up here, as many probably won't check otherwise. Put up some flashing lights or something.

 

[Deja moo]

IMO, the Dev league is a captains' league, with players merely filling in for cheerleading posts. I dont see the point in it. If Neils sim factors in aggression modes and the likes for each individual player, I think CW should go for it, and allow each player in the playing 11 to post his preferred individual tactics for each game.

 

[roseboy64]

Garven Island or Gofftown will do for me.

 

[Adamc]

IMO, the Dev league is a captains' league, with players merely filling in for cheerleading posts. I dont see the point in it. If Neils sim factors in aggression modes and the likes for each individual player, I think CW should go for it, and allow each player in the playing 11 to post his preferred individual tactics for each game.

Personally I think the best thing about the Dev League is precisely that - you don't have to do anything except post every now and then. If you want to do more you can, but essentially you can do as little or as much as you like.

 

[Deja moo]

Personally I think the best thing about the Dev League is precisely that - you don't have to do anything except post every now and then. If you want to do more you can, but essentially you can do as little or as much as you like.

Which essentially makes it a glorified version of WCC with 5 managers and a captive audience with no input beyond the provision of initial stats.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

IMO, the Dev league is a captains' league, with players merely filling in for cheerleading posts. I dont see the point in it. If Neils sim factors in aggression modes and the likes for each individual player, I think CW should go for it, and allow each player in the playing 11 to post his preferred individual tactics for each game.

The current sims feature individual aggression...

The whole CW XI is a basic concept. Each individual gets from it as much as he/she puts in. It's rubbish to say that players don't affect the tactics and thoughts of the captain. Captain's are more likely to give playing time to active posters. Captains also tend to listen to players on suggestions pertaining to the team approach.

Regarding each playing stating how he/she would like to play, that in itself has been taken into account. For example, Travis Demeza stated that he's an all-out fast bowler, and thus he bowls on full aggression all the time in FC matches, regardless of situation. He's used accordingly. The strike rates entered by Thompson, Cunningham and Wilson ensure that they play ultra-attacking cricket. All that said, it is the captain's place to request a player to temper his/her natural game, or adjust to suit - that's how it is in the real world too.

 

[Deja moo]

The current sims feature individual aggression...

The whole CW XI is a basic concept. Each individual gets from it as much as he/she puts in. It's rubbish to say that players don't affect the tactics and thoughts of the captain. Captain's are more likely to give playing time to active posters. Captains also tend to listen to players on suggestions pertaining to the team approach.

Yes, but that basically amounts to making players wear mini skirts and pom-poms on each hand. You make enough posts rah-rahing the team, and I'll consider playing you in a lot more games, that sort of stuff. I can understand activity being a factor, but not when its basically the only factor.

Regarding each playing stating how he/she would like to play, that in itself has been taken into account. For example, Travis Demeza stated that he's an all-out fast bowler, and thus he bowls on full aggression all the time in FC matches, regardless of situation. He's used accordingly. The strike rates entered by Thompson, Cunningham and Wilson ensure that they play ultra-attacking cricket. All that said, it is the captain's place to request a player to temper his/her natural game, or adjust to suit - that's how it is in the real world too.

Thats what I meant, it doesnt go beyond the initial details provided by players. As for it being near real life, thats way off the mark. Captains do have final say in real- life, but players too have the satisfaction of being able to control their own destiny by steering their game. Thats completely absent here. The Dev captains have all the trappings of real-life captaincy, but the Dev players do not have the provision of steering their own game. The captains say is not the be all of any players game in real life.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Yes, but that basically amounts to making players wear mini skirts and pom-poms on each hand. You make enough posts rah-rahing the team, and I'll consider playing you in a lot more games, that sort of stuff. I can understand activity being a factor, but not when its basically the only factor.

It's not the only factor. Performance and tactical considerations come into selection too.

Thats what I meant, it doesnt go beyond the initial details provided by players. As for it being near real life, thats way off the mark. Captains do have final say in real- life, but players too have the satisfaction of being able to control their own destiny by steering their game.

Like Ashley Giles? Captains constantly ask players to play a role in a side or situation. The realism comes in with the Dev League whereby a player like Bryce Cunningham may not be able to play the defensive role even if he tries, because he's naturally aggressive. That's how it is in the real world.

Thats completely absent here.

Really? Well you clearly don't pay enough attention to the Dev League then. Games are simmed on Player v Player mode, allowing each player to have an individual aggression setting (as I mentioned in my earlier post...) which may be adjusted throughout the innings.

The Dev captains have all the trappings of real-life captaincy, but the Dev players do not have the provision of steering their own game. The captains say is not the be all of any players game in real life.

Considering all I have said above, how exactly would you like it to be made more realistic?

 

[Jamee999]

I want a helmet.

 

[Deja moo]

It's not the only factor. Performance and tactical considerations come into selection too.

Like Ashley Giles? Captains constantly ask players to play a role in a side or situation. The realism comes in with the Dev League whereby a player like Bryce Cunningham may not be able to play the defensive role even if he tries, because he's naturally aggressive. That's how it is in the real world.

And there are players like Shoaib Akhtar who refuse to accept their captains orders, and play the kind of game they want to. If it clicks, and he keeps putting in good performances , they might be tolerated and kept in the team, or if the captain desires, kicked out. Providing the player the option to either follow the captains orders or not is real-life, not taking it away from him completely.

Really? Well you clearly don't pay enough attention to the Dev League then. Games are simmed on Player v Player mode, allowing each player to have an individual aggression setting (as I mentioned in my earlier post...) which may be adjusted throughout the innings.

Considering all I have said above, how exactly would you like it to be made more realistic?

I have been active for about a month or so, and I was never made aware of any such input ( on the part of the player, mind you, not the captain or the simmer, because that would again bring us back to the point that players are merely cheerleaders) invited on the part of the player for each game, not merely once at sign-up.

 

[Tom Halsey]

I'll represent Pickford please.