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*Breaking News* CWBCC Suspends Two Players

Travis_Teh

International Regular
Matteh said:
Then surely you should be banned again for dealing with Dauth in such a manner?
Calling him a ******, whilst he called me a druggy? That's fair enough, hey, i'm willing to go to the tribunal over those comments.

pasag said:
Yep good one mate, dismiss what people are saying as merely sticking up for their friends. Ignore rational, ignore logic and well put arguments, don't even bother with it because all people are doing is sticking up for a mate.

Your replies to both Mitchell and Dauth have been of real poor form and an apology is warranted.
I'm just sick and tired of people whinging and whining over things that have been decided by higher powers. It's fair to say that the powers above, i'm assuming it's Hakon Liam et al, have taken their time to come to the conclusion of the punishment that is to be enforced and as far as i'm concerned that's all there is to it ... hence "get over it".

I, also, couldn't care less about the logic, rational and well put arguments from the masses. As far as i'm concerned all of your well-worded, overly-anal comments just give me the ****s more so.

I'm not apologising to anyone. If they became offended by what I said then they need to listen to Chopper (Ronnie Johns) and harden the **** up.

Also, on a sidenote i'm not even going to bother to reply to Dauth. After seeing his latest effort of a retort, he doesn't deserve the time.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Travis_Teh said:
Calling him a ******, whilst he called me a druggy? That's fair enough, hey, i'm willing to go to the tribunal over those comments.
In response to you calling him a ****** and in response to your over the top reaction to comments that were made in decent manner.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Travis_Teh said:
I, also, couldn't care less about the logic, rational and well put arguments from the masses. As far as i'm concerned all of your well-worded, overly-anal comments just give me the ****s more so.
You pretty much sunk your own battleship with that comment
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Travis_Teh said:
Why would I, or any other cricket web'er not associated with your little possee, give a **** about your reasoning to stick behind a mate? Your intentions to help a friend in need is totally irrelevant to their suspension.

How does your, or someone else's, comment saying "it is unfair" change the mind of the people who made the decision?

All i've been saying, until you called me a blatant drug user, was everyone needs to get over it. I have neither said that it was fair nor unjust. Just "get over it". Do that, save my fingers from typing, please.
You blatantly baited from the start mocking the people protesting ban then treated the argument like you were the be all and end all. The fact of the matter is you have no say over the decision, instead got into a slanging match and really need to keep your mouth shut to come out of this with some dignity.

Travis_teh said:
I'm not apologising to anyone. If they became offended by what I said then they need to listen to Chopper (Ronnie Johns) and harden the **** up.
Players have been suspended for voicing the same sentiments in a private manner (MSN).
 
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Travis_Teh

International Regular
pasag said:
Clapo said:
You pretty much sunk your own battleship with that comment
Perhaps you both didn't notice that I said I couldn't care less what others said? Guess you missed it.

Matteh said:
In response to you calling him a ****** and in response to your over the top reaction to comments that were made in decent manner.
Who ever thought drug use and insinuations of drug abuse were over the top .... good work. Just because he never replied about being called a ****** doesn't mean he wasn't offended as being referred as one.... like I was, potentially, offended as being referred to as drug abuser.

Shame on you for condoning drug use, Mitchell.
 

ash chaulk

International Captain
Travis_Teh said:
If they became offended by what I said then they need to listen to Chopper (Ronnie Johns) and harden the **** up.

well if everyone listened to this comment then there would be no suspensions in the first place.. so i dont understand why are you all for this ban if you have this to say?
 

Travis_Teh

International Regular
James90 said:
You blatantly baited from the start mocking the people protesting ban then treated the argument like you were the be all and end all. The fact of the matter is you have no say over the decision, instead got into a slanging match and really need to keep your mouth shut to come out of this with some dignity.
Suck it up, Stedman, my argument from the outset was blatantly "get over it". Pretty sure that is a view point .... and if it isn't i'm sure you can argue the point anally.

I have no dignity to start with, I am under no illusion that I ever have or ever will. Which is a shame that others don't think along the same way .... because in reality no one here has any dignity... especially due to the fact that they are arguing about something so trivial.
 

Travis_Teh

International Regular
ash chaulk said:
well if everyone listened to this comment then there would be no suspensions in the first place.. so i dont understand why are you all for this ban if you have this to say?
Not entirely sure what you just said, hey.

If you were referring to me being 'all for;' the ban. ... that isn't entirely true. I haven't said I was for or against the ban. All i've been saying is that people should accept the decision and get on with their lives instead of whining over the decision .... harsh or not.

Meanwhile, I seem a contradiction ... as I have wasted enough time trying to suggest this point and hence I am hypocritically telling others to move on when I, infact, have not.

:p
 

Travis_Teh

International Regular
ash chaulk said:
cmon you should know by now my posts are a jigsaw puzzle
I seriously try my hardest .... guess i'm not good with puzzles :(



Sad, what ever happened to the old Western Australian mentality of "us versus them?" :( har har
 

Magrat Garlick

Rather Mad Witch
Travis_Teh said:
Sad, what ever happened to the old Western Australian mentality of "us versus them?" :( har har
You drunk again? :p

On a serious note:

The bannings were this long because of the "straw breaking camel's back" effect. We've had short bans and they've really had little discernible effects on the general conduct in the forum; yes, it's harsh, and it's supposed to be harsh because we don't want people going around creating an atmosphere where people retire because they're frozen out. That's 11-year-old schoolyard stuff. This is not a battle worth fighting for "freedom of expression"; with that freedom comes a responsibility, which has been sadly lacking over the past couple of seasons.
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Samuel_Vimes said:
You drunk again? :p

On a serious note:

The bannings were this long because of the "straw breaking camel's back" effect. We've had short bans and they've really had little discernible effects on the general conduct in the forum; yes, it's harsh, and it's supposed to be harsh because we don't want people going around creating an atmosphere where people retire because they're frozen out. That's 11-year-old schoolyard stuff. This is not a battle worth fighting for "freedom of expression"; with that freedom comes a responsibility, which has been sadly lacking over the past couple of seasons.
Can the process of an appeal occur or is the decision final?
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
Travis_Teh said:
My childish comments were about as constructive as the other load of crap comments brought to the table.

Get over it, they got suspended, end of story.
Your childish comments are far form constructive. Baiting the people posting before you into a knee-jerk response towards your horrible behaviour isn't as constructive as say, me, formally appealing the length of the bans, or even the VC of Blue doing the same thing. You're trying to justify an post where you openly call all our posts crap. Yeah, nice work.

PY said:
Suck it up.

It's been coming and behaviour has been shocking for a while. Ban length maybe harsh but the bans aren't.
That's all that's been argued as far as I can see.

Travis_Teh said:
Odd, I remember the reason why I was suspended back in season 8 or 9 was becasue of you Dauth .... and I guess some things never change. I still think you are a complete ******.

This whole thread was started to inform people that two players were suspended. I'm pretty sure it wasn't started so those two players' friends would rally behind them to try and talk them out of punishment due to "unjust reasoning!".

Get over it, and crawl back under your rock, Dauth.
Okay, before I deal with the fact that this post is a complete slagging off of another player, have you not noticed that I'm CW Black captain now, and am arguing the length of these bans for the sake of my club as a whole, not because these guys are part of my "CW Clique" which everyone seems to think. My stance is purely towards the benefit of the club, and overall, the competition. The bans are overly long and because they don't really affect you, you're saying that we should all "get over it" with no appeal process. This isn't the Soviet Union, you know.

Anywho, this Demeza post and some of the following posts warrant at least a warning, IMO.

FaaipDeOiad said:
I don't think anyone really has a problem with the bans, in fact they were probably expected, but the length is completely absurd, and should definitely be reduced to something in the area of 5-10 games. Nobody has ever been suspended for anything like half a season, let alone a whole season, and people have done a hell of a lot worse.

To go from seeing two games for insulting another player to a whole season is way over the top, whether it is based on a "general trend" of behaviour or not. You need to have some sort of consistency in the rules.
You can always rely on Fuller to post common sense. No one here has said that they didn't deserve a ban, nearly everyone has appealed the way over the top length of these bans. I'd almost be fine with half a season for Blackman and a quarter for Borcich (even though I feel he deserves no more than a few matches).

Travis_Teh said:
False accusations of drug abuse ... tsk tsk. Would be good if you could keep to the facts rather than making up make believe stories of dragons, princess' and illicit drug use.
Oh yeah, he really posted that with the intention of reporting you to the national police as a drug user. This is a complete joke of a post, I can't believe you're using an obviously sarcastic post by Dauth as justification for your ridiculous baiting and tirade.

PY said:
OK, I'll make that generalisation happily....oh wait...it's true? :dry:

I think you're trying to stir as much as Trav is and to make it worse, you're trying to take the moral high ground.
Apart from the fact that Trav came in and slagged everyone before him who'd posted in the thread, when they'd only posted common sense? Right, nice post Pete.

Travis_Teh said:
Why would I, or any other cricket web'er not associated with your little possee, give a **** about your reasoning to stick behind a mate? Your intentions to help a friend in need is totally irrelevant to their suspension.
This has nothing to do with that. In case you haven't noticed, Clapo isn't really part of that, nor is Jamee, or even Cloete really, but they've all expressed dislike at the length of the ban.

Travis_Teh said:
How does your, or someone else's, comment saying "it is unfair" change the mind of the people who made the decision?
It doesn't, but it surely should be considered. This isn't a dictatorship. It's supposed to be as realistic as possible, appeal processes should be implemented.

Matteh said:
Then surely you should be banned again for dealing with Dauth in such a manner?
Precedent here. Numerous people (including me, ffs) have copped bans this season for poor conduct towards other players. Demeza should be made accountable for his posts here.

pasag said:
Yep good one mate, dismiss what people are saying as merely sticking up for their friends. Ignore rational, ignore logic and well put arguments, don't even bother with it because all people are doing is sticking up for a mate.

Your replies to both Mitchell and Dauth have been of real poor form and an apology is warranted.
I expect one, to be honest. If he doesn't not only does he lose pretty much any credibility and reputation, he should be dealt with harsher than before.

Travis_Teh said:
I, also, couldn't care less about the logic, rational and well put arguments from the masses. As far as i'm concerned all of your well-worded, overly-anal comments just give me the ****s more so.
Right, so you're basically saying because these posts have been made by a certain group of posters they have no value in your eyes. I'm sorry, but that's a joke. Just because a well thought out a rational post stirs you up doesn't mean you can abuse fellow players.

James90 said:
You blatantly baited from the start mocking the people protesting ban then treated the argument like you were the be all and end all. The fact of the matter is you have no say over the decision, instead got into a slanging match and really need to keep your mouth shut to come out of this with some dignity.
Great post. You're in no position of power here and are acting as though you're God's divine intervention. Get over your prejudices towards CW Black and get some vision.

James90 said:
Players have been suspended for voicing the same sentiments in a private manner (MSN).
Surprised it took this long to bring this point up. Blackman has been suspended for allegedly abusing Kearsley at the start of the season and Butler at the end, both of which I can attest to have been of less venom and just all-around in better taste than this and has copped a huge ban for doing it in private. The only difference between his actions and yours here is that he thought about it beforehand and made sure it was done in private, whereas you've blown your stack over people challenging your almighty opinion.

Travis_Teh said:
I have no dignity to start with, I am under no illusion that I ever have or ever will. Which is a shame that others don't think along the same way .... because in reality no one here has any dignity... especially due to the fact that they are arguing about something so trivial.
This is hardly trivial in the eyes of CW Black. You may have not lost two of the essential parts of your squad at Blue, but if you had, it wouldn't be so trivial to you. Poor form, I expected more overall than this from you.

In any case, to make my standpoint clear. As current captain of CW Black, I'm not against any ban for these players. My viewpoint is that it's an overly long ban, and I'd like to try and appeal for at least a reduction. It's not like they won't learn a lesson from a lesser ban, considering even if you halved them they'd be a huge ban.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
Samuel_Vimes said:
The bannings were this long because of the "straw breaking camel's back" effect. We've had short bans and they've really had little discernible effects on the general conduct in the forum; yes, it's harsh, and it's supposed to be harsh because we don't want people going around creating an atmosphere where people retire because they're frozen out. That's 11-year-old schoolyard stuff. This is not a battle worth fighting for "freedom of expression"; with that freedom comes a responsibility, which has been sadly lacking over the past couple of seasons.
Is there an appeal route we can go down to try and shorten these bans, as well as maybe a private conversation with me and the CWBCC as to finer details of the ban?
 

Buddhmaster

International Captain
Smitty, I didn't go out of my way. Just saw him online, called him soft, and he got angry (not even really). But I don't think that's the issue here. Me and Borcich (and Stedman) disagreed with the 2 match ban I got for it, and Hoy didn't like that. Hoy leaves, Camps fumes.
 

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