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[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Pollock's prime lasted maybe a series or two.
Michael Atherton reckoned he was genuinely quick in 1995\96 when he made his debut but certainly since 1998 he's barely lost any pace.
IIRR Pollock had some injury in about 1997 and since then he's never been quick, and only just fitted into fast-medium, too.

Yet Pollock was quicker than Ajit Agarkar and that's my point.

 

[Beleg]

I have the greatest respect for him because hes probably one of the few people under 45kgs to bowl over 140kms, damn those guys with fast arm actions!

Under 45 KG??? You must be joking.

 

[Richard]

Yet Pollock was quicker than Ajit Agarkar and that's my point.

Not in 1999 he wasn't! Agarkar was cranking it up to nearly 90mph (although bowling far too many no-balls) in that cracking WC99 game, and Pollock was in the low 80s (as usual).
Of course, neither really registered because Donald and Srinath (with contrasting results - as so often through their careers) were bowling as quickly as anyone that Cup (bar Shoaib - as Sherwin Campbell might remember).

 

[Neil Pickup]

45kg ~ 7 stone, about average 12/13 year old weight.

Me thinks the Great One is a little heavier.

 

[Eclipse]

From the little I remember of him in England (or rather, in the first 2 Tests) he's got the tools to do very well against Hayden.
If they can catch Gilchrist when he gives his chances they'll be laughing. Well, unless Symonds' scarecely believable form continues.

Symond's form has continued so far for Queensland in OD and FC games..

I know you like to look at a players LIST-A / FC avrage's to conclude there rough ability at the international level but in Symonds case he really has changed the way he plays in OD cricket.. so much so that his past domestic and international one day cricket means nothing..

It's rare that players can do this but Symonds has so while his form might drop off he will always be a signifigantly better OD batsman than he was pre WC 2003..

 

[Mr Casson]

The weird thing is that Symonds hasn't looked like a man in good form in the last year. He looks like a man who's playing naturally and just takes apart attacks for a living. It's pretty crazy if you ask me, especially considering what he was like before WC2003.

And I'm not a huge fan of the man, but the way he plays the game these days I'm coming around.

 

[Richard]

Symond's form has continued so far for Queensland in OD and FC games..

I know you like to look at a players LIST-A / FC avrage's to conclude there rough ability at the international level but in Symonds case he really has changed the way he plays in OD cricket.. so much so that his past domestic and international one day cricket means nothing..

It's rare that players can do this but Symonds has so while his form might drop off he will always be a signifigantly better OD batsman than he was pre WC 2003..

Oh, yes, I'd be crazy if I didn't admit that Symonds is a totally different player - the best thing to do is compare his List-A and ODI records from WC2003 onwards and before - they've both shot through the roof.
Nonetheless, they've shot so far through the roof, and hardly anyone has ever scored so many runs, in such fashion, at such a rate, before - it almost has to stop sometime.

 

[Eclipse]

Oh, yes, I'd be crazy if I didn't admit that Symonds is a totally different player - the best thing to do is compare his List-A and ODI records from WC2003 onwards and before - they've both shot through the roof.
Nonetheless, they've shot so far through the roof, and hardly anyone has ever scored so many runs, in such fashion, at such a rate, before - it almost has to stop sometime.

Yeah i would expect he wont keep going this well forever.. good thing is his bowling has improved a little bit as well and he has always been a great feilder so from this point on he is probably always going to be one of the first players picked in the team.

 

[marc71178]

Pollock's prime lasted maybe a series or two.

Well seeing how damn good he is as a bowler and what a great career he's had, to have only been in his prime for a series or 2 suggests to me his prime was unbelievably good.

Out of interest which 2 series do you consider to be his prime?

 

[Richard]

He's every bit as good a bowler now as he was in 1995\96 (well, probably better actually).
But Liam was talking about his prime with referance to pace, and I said that if his prime meant he was fast-pace, it lasted 2 series or so.

 

[nzidol]

45kg ~ 7 stone, about average 12/13 year old weight.

Me thinks the Great One is a little heavier.

Perhaps I was being a little facetious when I said that.. :-)

But seriously, he is really skinny and pretty short too. I'm just under 6 feet and weigh 76kgs and Agarks came up to my shoulder and there's no way he could be over 65kgs. Funnily enough he had to leave practice early to do some modelling shoot. Made me laugh my **** off.

Great bowler though, one of the old school swing bowlers and frighteningly quick too. Gave me some good tips too!

 

[tooextracool]

Pollock's prime lasted maybe a series or two.
Michael Atherton reckoned he was genuinely quick in 1995\96 when he made his debut but certainly since 1998 he's barely lost any pace.
IIRR Pollock had some injury in about 1997 and since then he's never been quick, and only just fitted into fast-medium, too.

i disagree, while pollock lost a bit of pace around 98, he was still quick enough to trouble batsmen on non swinging/seaming conditions until 2001 when he turned into an average 78-79mph bowler

 

[tooextracool]

Yet Pollock was quicker than Ajit Agarkar and that's my point.

ajit agarkar bowls at a farily hostile pace, usually above 85 mph. pollock hasnt reached 85 mph for a long time.

 

[Richard]

i disagree, while pollock lost a bit of pace around 98, he was still quick enough to trouble batsmen on non swinging/seaming conditions until 2001 when he turned into an average 78-79mph bowler

Pollock was bowling at 81-2mph, with an occasional quick ball (85 or so) in 1998, I remember that quite clearly.
He's maybe 2 or 3 mph slower now, but I don't think it makes the difference so many make it out to do.

 

[tooextracool]

Pollock was bowling at 81-2mph, with an occasional quick ball (85 or so) in 1998, I remember that quite clearly.
He's maybe 2 or 3 mph slower now, but I don't think it makes the difference so many make it out to do.

i think it does, since 2001 hes struggled on most flat tracks.....

 

[Pinkline Jones]

Trev

Trevor Chappell had the best bowling action by far. Very low trajectory but it would make life difficult for the batsmen.

 

[SJS]

i think it does, since 2001 hes struggled on most flat tracks.....

Polock must be one of the most under rated bowlers in the history of the game. His figures challenge the best in the game including McGrath but somehow we never think of him. If South africa played more test cricket than they do, he would have been close to the 450 wicket mark and at an average of 21.73 !!

Add to that 3000 runs at 33 apiece and we have an awesome cricketer unsung by his contemporaries. Another case of lack of glamour fooling the public

 

[Camel56]

Trevor Chappell had the best bowling action by far. Very low trajectory but it would make life difficult for the batsmen.

Spot on Pinkline. T Chappel had a flawless action. Right on the button every time. Definitely the man you want to keep it the runs down in a tight limited overs finish especially when the opposition requires 7 off the last ball.

 

[nzidol]

Spot on Pinkline. T Chappel had a flawless action. Right on the button every time. Definitely the man you want to keep it the runs down in a tight limited overs finish especially when the opposition requires 7 off the last ball.

Yeah.. and the Australian media wondered why Stephen Fleming didn't enter into a "gentleman's" agreement with Ricky Ponting on catches claimed by a fieldsman. Would you trust Justin Langer if he told you he had taken a catch? I certainly wouldn't.

I almost fell off my chair laughing when Ian Healy tried to paint the entire Australian team with the Gilchrist brush, saying "the Aussies are a good bunch of walkers when they bat", this a day after Langer (my most hated cricketer) had knicked the cover off one and looked bewildered that the black caps even appealed.

 

[tooextracool]

Polock must be one of the most under rated bowlers in the history of the game. His figures challenge the best in the game including McGrath but somehow we never think of him. If South africa played more test cricket than they do, he would have been close to the 450 wicket mark and at an average of 21.73 !!

Add to that 3000 runs at 33 apiece and we have an awesome cricketer unsung by his contemporaries. Another case of lack of glamour fooling the public

or another case of misleading stats, some people just cant get over it. he was a fine bowler, no doubting that before 2001. after that hes been decent.