Battle of the Middle Orders

[subshakerz]

I actually believe Lloyd is a very good batsman and was underrated in that poll, but still ABD wins easily.

Then you are underrating Lloyd too.

 

[The Sean]

The Indians
The South Africans
The Ws
The other Indians

 

[vidiq]

I really don't get Mark Waugh over Laxman. They have a 4.2 runs average difference, which is perfectly on point. I too rate Steve over Dravid, but no ways the distance is even the same with Laxman and Mark.

Their Era adjusted average is almost same.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Their Era adjusted average is almost same.

Their career length isn't and Laxman played from 96, he played half of the 90s. If you are adjusting averages between two eras such that whole ass 4 runs are being made of, you are doing something wrong. Might as well rate Mark Taylor over Graeme Smith.

 

[subshakerz]

Their Era adjusted average is almost same.

Yeah. They need to look outside the box, Waugh and Laxman are definitely close.

 

[subshakerz]

Their career length isn't and Laxman played from 96, he played half of the 90s. If you are adjusting averages between two eras such that whole ass 4 runs are being made of, you are doing something wrong.

Yeah so he mostly sucked in the bowling friendly 90s and succeeded in the 2000s when he went down the order. Why should that be rewarded?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah so he mostly sucked in the bowling friendly 90s and succeeded in the 2000s when he went down the order. Why should that be rewarded?

Then rate him as a 50 averaging bat, if you ignore his 90s career. Can't have both.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@subshakerz do you rate Waugh over Clarke??

 

[subshakerz]

@subshakerz do you rate Waugh over Clarke??

Mark Waugh? I don't think so.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Mark Waugh? I don't think so.

Yeah, I rate Laxman over Clarke. Waugh a tier behind them.

 

[subshakerz]

Then rate him as a 50 averaging bat, if you ignore his 90s career. Can't have both.

I don't ignore it. I include it which is one reason I downgrade him.

 

[subshakerz]

Yeah, I rate Laxman over Clarke. Waugh a tier behind them.

Yeah that's wild sorry. Clarke was the best bat in the world in the 2010s even if he was a bit overrated.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah that's wild sorry. Clarke was the best bat in the world in the 2010s even if he was a bit overrated.

Yeahhhhhh....... Doesn't makes sense to me to not rate Clarke-Pietersen-Laxman next to each other. Sorry.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I don't ignore it. I include it which is one reason I downgrade him.

Except he ****ing opened in the 90s, something he did never even in domestic level.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@subshakerz

VVS Laxman vs Michael Clarke

Two legendary #5s

www.cricketweb.net

 

[subshakerz]

Except he ****ing opened in the 90s, something he did never even in domestic level.

Growing pains. Again we downgrade Waugh for the same reason, he couldn't bat well up the order in the few times he got before finding his place.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Growing pains. Again we downgrade Waugh for the same reason, he couldn't bat well up the order in the few times he got before finding his place.

Except Laxman has a pretty good record at 3 and 4. He just was never an opener who was forced to open.

 

[subshakerz]

@subshakerz

VVS Laxman vs Michael Clarke

Two legendary #5s

www.cricketweb.net

Thanks voted Clarke.

 

[Coronis]

@subshakerz

VVS Laxman vs Michael Clarke

Two legendary #5s

www.cricketweb.net

Quite surprised at that tbh

 

[subshakerz]

Except Laxman has a pretty good record at 3. He just was never an opener who was forced to open.

I don't think having the wrong batting position is a valid enough excuse to ignore someone's record especially when comparing to someone who spent more of this career ahead of him.