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Australia's ODI squad

pasag

RTDAS
Sorry to quote my own post, but Quiney himself might not be a bad pick given the failings of the other opening options. His numbers in one day domestic cricket certainly back it up:

Career: 830 runs @ 41.50, SR: 91.10
2008/09: 285 runs @ 47.50, SR: 100.35
2007/08: 380 runs @ 47.50, SR: 93.82

He's also shown the ability to play spectacular innings against good attacks - his finest hour against an international-standard NSW attack being the best example. The fact that his Shield record has generally been terrible might have counted against him even in terms of ODI selection, but he's even rectified that to some extent this season, averaging over 40 and posting his first First Class century.

He's obviously not going to get picked - the fact that he hasn't been on the radar for 'A' teams at all shows the selectors haven't really been looking at him, plus the fact that despite being an opening batsman by trade, most of his success so far has come in the middle order where there is much more competition. I thought he was worth mentioning though - could be a bolter in the next season or so if the other opening options fail.
I was at that game :cool:
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Anyone think MacDonald a chance at an all rounders spot in the squad. I have White and Hopes as all rounders. But they have had four in past in squads. Though Watson, Symonds and White were all there as batsmen. But looking at the squad you could see another all rounder come in.

They have squads now for home ODIs as well now Smitty. They just had a stupid rotation policy before. I can't see them using it again with the current situation, but you never know.
 

Rant0r

International 12th Man
I think there is also a case for the selectors to think of picking slightly different ODI and test, because for a while now Australia have been playing with almost identical ODI and test sides, i think there is no harm in giving likes of Bollinger, Hilfenhaus, Klinger, Hughes, etc a run in a few ODI games to see where exactly they stand in international cricket, it would also ease the workload on players who are constantly involved in all three form of the game.
agreed

I've been the biggest Dougie fan for a long time. Picking him in the One Day squad is career ruining material, same with Noffke or anyone else along those lines.
would help with some exposure though

Had a slight chuckle

On topic though, agree re: Tait. If he's fit, pick him, blokes a gun in ODI cricket.

Would go for...

Marsh
Hopes
Ponting
Clarke
Huss
Huss Jnr
Haddin
Johnson
Hauritz
Bracken
Tait

Have a funny feeling the selectors are either going to pick Hayden again, or put Clarke back up at the top of the order whilst there isn't any other standout candidate to open. Would love to see Voges or North get a run in the team at some stage over the summer as well.
clarke opening would leave a spot in the middle order for haddin too, so he's not shafted down to number 7 or 8
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
God I wish Watson was available to open.

Since he isn't though, Hopes should, and I'd like to see Tait and D. Hussey come in too. So same squad as Smapo.
 

howardj

International Coach
Clarke
Marsh
Ponting
Dussey
Mussey
Haddin
Hopes
Johnson
Hauritz
Bracken
Hilfenhaus

I don't think Hopes has the class to open. There is a big difference between opening in domestic one-dayers, and opening on the big stage - just ask Jimmy Maher. Ideally, you'd have Watson opening but, in his absence, Clarke is the best option in my learned opinion, especially given that a vacancy simply must be created for the irresistible David Hussey.

Reserves would be Tait and Klinger. .
 
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howardj

International Coach
Also would like to see White get a go as a specialist batsman at some stage this Summer, perhaps when Ponting/Clarke/Hussey are rested.

My God that chappy can tonk it.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Can't see Siddle making the one day squad watching his efforts in the field today. It was the reason given for keeping MacGill out of the ODI side for so long.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Clarke
Marsh
Ponting
Dussey
Mussey
Haddin
Hopes
Johnson
Hauritz
Bracken
Hilfenhaus

I don't think Hopes has the class to open. There is a big difference between opening in domestic one-dayers, and opening on the big stage - just ask Jimmy Maher. Ideally, you'd have Watson opening but, in his absence, Clarke is the best option in my learned opinion, especially given that a vacancy simply must be created for the irresistible David Hussey.

Reserves would be Tait and Klinger. .
Clarke isn't the best option to open, especially not when he's so freaking good in the middle order. As I said in the other thread, he's 300 times better at 4 than Hopes is at 7, and probs only about 2/3 times better as an opener than Hopes.

As was posted in the other thread as well, it's worth noting that Clarke has only 1 score above 50 (discounting games against Zimbabwe) whilst opening.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Can't see Siddle making the one day squad watching his efforts in the field today. It was the reason given for keeping MacGill out of the ODI side for so long.
Yeah but unlike MacGill he can hold a bat and has two modes when he bowling. He can attack and defend at different time. MacGill always just attacked, it worked for him. But unless your a fast bowler that bowls 150 the selector want more from their bowlers. Also playing five right arm seamers is fine by the selectors but two leggie is a no, no.

There was a lot more to MacGill not playing then his poor fielding, which at he best was decent enough to field in the gullies and slips for NSW. He always had a good pair of hands.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Can't see Siddle making the one day squad watching his efforts in the field today. It was the reason given for keeping MacGill out of the ODI side for so long.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he's handled with regards to OD cricket. His shoulder is pretty crook, thus doesn't have much of a wing.

Mind you, no surprise to see you find an excuse to put a Victorian out of the side after a five wicket haul...

EDIT: Also, what chaminda said.
 

howardj

International Coach
Clarke isn't the best option to open, especially not when he's so freaking good in the middle order. As I said in the other thread, he's 300 times better at 4 than Hopes is at 7, and probs only about 2/3 times better as an opener than Hopes.

As was posted in the other thread as well, it's worth noting that Clarke has only 1 score above 50 (discounting games against Zimbabwe) whilst opening.
With the greatest respect, I feel that Clarke has improved immeasurably as a batsman. He is incredibly mature, and much more technically correct than was formerly the case. The figures you cite, are almost those of a different player. It's not that I have anything against Hopes, hell I've picked him in my XI. It's just that I think Clarke is better equipped to open while Watson recovers, especially with an absolute gun like DHussey to kind of take Clarke's place in the middle order.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
So effectively your making the senior batsmen move to accomodate a new member to the team. A move that could potentially screw up the balance of the side completely. There's little to suggest that Clarke is the best option in all of Australia to open the batting whilst maintaining some sort of balance in the side.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If Clarke were going to make the move to opener a permanent thing, then it might be worth a shot. But, he's just so valuable at 4, so see no need to move him from there. It's better to give some other options the chance to open the innings there. And, I am of the belief that Hopes should be given that opportunity.
 

Alysum

U19 Debutant
Here is my team:

1- Hughes
2- Warner/Marsh
3- Ponting
4- Clarke
5- Klinger
6- Haddin
7- All rounder McDonald?
8- Hauritz
9- Hilfenhaus
10- Bracken
11- Tait

It's seriously time for the selectors to blood new young guys...come on C.A!

Johnson needs to be rested. I'm sure there are better all rounders in the country than Hopes and White who are jokes...perhaps give McDonald a go while Watson/Symonds recover.
 
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NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
It's hard to believe that Siddle is the best right arm ODI option available.

I think the selectors may go for the Tasmanian's Geeves or Hilfenhaus over Siddle

I'm also finding it hard to find an open to partner Marsh..

1 Shaun Marsh
2 Simon Katich
3 Ricky Ponting
4 Michael Clarke
5 Michael Hussey
6 David Hussey
7 Brad Haddin
8 James Hopes
9 Mitchell Johnson
10 Brett Geeves
11 Nathan Bracken

12 Nathan Hauritz
13 Doug Bollinger
14 Adam Voges
15 Shaun Tait/Ben Hilfenhaus/Peter Siddle.

**Probably a bowler short**
Would like to change my team slightly.
1 Hopes
2 Katich
3 Ponting
4 Clarke
5 M Hussey
6 D Hussey
7 Haddin
8 Johnson
9 Hauritz
10 Bracken
11 Tait

12 Siddle
13 Voges/North
14 Hilfenhaus

I don't think Marsh's form warrants a position at the top of the order [despite me saying otherwise on page 1] and now that Tait is back he really gives the side a bit of an X factor.

It wouldn't phase me if the selectors opted with Hughes instead of Katich, however I think Hughes would benefit a little bit more from playing Shield Cricket instead of playing ODIs.
 

Alysum

U19 Debutant
I seriously don't understand why some of you want Katich as an ODI opener??? Remember a few years ago when everyone was screaming with how slow he was scoring? Well sorry he's not going to change his approach... we need young batsmen to build a future strong australian team,
 

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