Australia's ODI squad

[pasag]

You can still rest him during the ODI's. Especially when NZ come back.

True, don't think he should be rested untill we win or lose the SA one-dayers though (as IMO they're fairly important), despite the fact that looks like happening now.

 

[pup11]

I can almost guarantee that Ryan Harris will play for Australia at the Gabba on Tuesday.

1.D. Warner: NSW, 22
2.S. Marsh: WA, 25
3.R. Ponting (c): TAS, 34
4.M. Hussey (vc): WA, 33
5.D. Hussey: VIC, 31
6.C. White: VIC, 25
7.B. Haddin: NSW, 31
8.J. Hopes: QLD, 30
9.N. Bracken: NSW, 31
10.B. Hilfenhaus: TAS, 25
11.S. Tait: SA, 25

I think this is how the final XI might look like for the T20 games, unless they decide to pick Harris ahead of Hopes.

 

[pasag]

1.D. Warner: NSW, 22
2.S. Marsh: WA, 25
3.R. Ponting (c): TAS, 34
4.M. Hussey (vc): WA, 33
5.D. Hussey: VIC, 31
6.C. White: VIC, 25
7.B. Haddin: NSW, 31
8.J. Hopes: QLD, 30
9.N. Bracken: NSW, 31
10.B. Hilfenhaus: TAS, 25
11.S. Tait: SA, 25

I think this is how the final XI might look like for the T20 games, unless they decide to pick Harris ahead of Hopes.

Why wouldn't Clarke play?

Edit: Never mind, just saw.

 

[chaminda_00]

Harris would probably get a game ahead of Bracken or Hilfenhaus, just to see where he is at.

 

[Johnners]

1.D. Warner: NSW, 22
2.S. Marsh: WA, 25
3.R. Ponting (c): TAS, 34
4.M. Hussey (vc): WA, 33
5.D. Hussey: VIC, 31
6.C. White: VIC, 25
7.B. Haddin: NSW, 31
8.J. Hopes: QLD, 30
9.N. Bracken: NSW, 31
10.B. Hilfenhaus: TAS, 25
11.S. Tait: SA, 25

I think this is how the final XI might look like for the T20 games, unless they decide to pick Harris ahead of Hopes.

Given that there are 13 players, and 2 matches, I think you'll find that all players will get at least 1 game.

 

[pup11]

True, don't think he should be rested untill we win or lose the SA one-dayers though (as IMO they're fairly important), despite the fact that looks like happening now.

Lee sent down 580 overs last year and look how he has ended up now, i am sure Mitch has also had equal amount of workload last year, and given his histroy of injuries, he needs to used with care, so i think its the right decision to rest him till the 3rd ODI of the South African series.

 

[pasag]

Imagine being the bloke that told Hayden he's sacked

Would probs send it by SMS if I had to do it.

 

[pasag]

Lee sent down 580 overs last year and look how he has ended up now, i am sure Mitch has also had equal amount of workload last year, and given his histroy of injuries, he needs to used with care, so i think its the right decision to rest him till the 3rd ODI of the South African series.

So rest him from the Twenty20s which would give him over a week off and then rest him once the series is decided. Aus-SA is one of the biggest ODI series in world cricket and it's the first one since 434 as well, so it's important to field the best possible team IMO.

 

[chaminda_00]

I doubt South Africa will go full strength either. Smith was going to pull out even before the injury and I would be surprise if Steyn and even Ntini plays all the matches.

 

[pup11]

I doubt South Africa will go full strength either. Smith was going to pull out even before the injury and I would be surprise if Steyn and even Ntini plays all the matches.

Yup, i think the return leg of the test series should hold more importance for both the sides and for that series both teams would like to field their best possible sides, therefore easing a bit of workload off the backs of your key players before that series to ensure they are fresh and raring to go is fair enough imo.

 

[NUFAN]

1.D. Warner: NSW, 22
2.S. Marsh: WA, 25
3.R. Ponting (c): TAS, 34
4.M. Hussey (vc): WA, 33
5.D. Hussey: VIC, 31
6.C. White: VIC, 25
7.B. Haddin: NSW, 31
8.J. Hopes: QLD, 30
9.N. Bracken: NSW, 31
10.B. Hilfenhaus: TAS, 25
11.S. Tait: SA, 25

I think this is how the final XI might look like for the T20 games, unless they decide to pick Harris ahead of Hopes.

I said he'll play at the Gabba on Tuesday, the second match.

Is the team you've picked your team for the Gabba or your team for the first match at the MCG?

Hopes and Harris SHOULD play at home in the second match.

All 13 players will get to play in at least one of the matches.

 

[oldmancraigy]

I think I know something about cricket - and so I tell others they have no idea

I think anyone who has read the exchange will realise that there's one person with no idea - and it isn't me.

Unfortunately you're pushing a fully loaded wagon up a hill and screaming out that it's not heavy. Clearly it is, and you're struggling.

If you want to make absurd comments about Marsh having a better OD career (at domestic level than Hughes then you're got the weight of evidence on your back to prove it. Marsh is at 33 on the domestic scene, Hughes 36 - and, as you correctly point out, Hughes is still to hit top gear in the OD scene.

I would have thought it was reasonably common knowledge that Marsh got picked for Australia based on his T20 form both last summer and in India? It had nothing to do with his domestic OD career (which is solid but unspectacular). And being the 'incumbent' batsman with an average of 47 is a tad misleading - he got a guernsey against the Windies (being the backup opener on tour - taken because he was seen as a 'potential opener of the future, thanks in large part to his strong summer last year [[which has turned out to be the exception and not the rule]]). - and averaged 30 against them. Found himself playing Bangladesh the next month and tonked them everywhere. But then so did Jason Gillespie.

Incumbents who play a few matches have been dropped plenty of times - especially when the incumbent is sorely out of form.

I'm not advocating picking Hughes because he's the best Ford Ranger batsman in the competition, I'm saying pick him because there's a career for him as an Australian opening batsman in ALL formats of the game AND he can field in the slips. Goodbye Hayden, hello Hughes.
Marsh got picked on IPL form to play ODIs --> why not pick Hughes on sheer form in ALL facets of the domestic game to play the ODIs (as a precursor to moving him into the test team on the upcoming tours...)

Heck - if I were going for the "most in form" batsman in the domestic OD scene it'd be someone like Warner (who they selected for the T20s but not the ODIs?? Odd considering he's been fantastic in the One dayers but only had one good innings in the T20s...)

 

[howardj]

Brad Hodge should be in the T20 squad.

Granted, he's 34 years old, but the World Cup is only months away.

He's clearly one of the best T20 batsmen in Australia.

 

[howardj]

I think anyone who has read the exchange will realise that there's one person with no idea - and it isn't me.

Unfortunately you're pushing a fully loaded wagon up a hill and screaming out that it's not heavy. Clearly it is, and you're struggling.

If you want to make absurd comments about Marsh having a better OD career (at domestic level than Hughes then you're got the weight of evidence on your back to prove it. Marsh is at 33 on the domestic scene, Hughes 36 - and, as you correctly point out, Hughes is still to hit top gear in the OD scene.

I would have thought it was reasonably common knowledge that Marsh got picked for Australia based on his T20 form both last summer and in India? It had nothing to do with his domestic OD career (which is solid but unspectacular). And being the 'incumbent' batsman with an average of 47 is a tad misleading - he got a guernsey against the Windies (being the backup opener on tour - taken because he was seen as a 'potential opener of the future, thanks in large part to his strong summer last year [[which has turned out to be the exception and not the rule]]). - and averaged 30 against them. Found himself playing Bangladesh the next month and tonked them everywhere. But then so did Jason Gillespie.

Incumbents who play a few matches have been dropped plenty of times - especially when the incumbent is sorely out of form.

I'm not advocating picking Hughes because he's the best Ford Ranger batsman in the competition, I'm saying pick him because there's a career for him as an Australian opening batsman in ALL formats of the game AND he can field in the slips. Goodbye Hayden, hello Hughes.
Marsh got picked on IPL form to play ODIs --> why not pick Hughes on sheer form in ALL facets of the domestic game to play the ODIs (as a precursor to moving him into the test team on the upcoming tours...)

Heck - if I were going for the "most in form" batsman in the domestic OD scene it'd be someone like Warner (who they selected for the T20s but not the ODIs?? Odd considering he's been fantastic in the One dayers but only had one good innings in the T20s...)

Yep, Marsh's so-called magnificent ODI career has been against the menacing Bangladesh, and then the second worst attack in the world, the West Indies (where he failed 3 times out of 5). Love his FC record too. I stand by my comments that he doesn't deserve ODI selection this Summer, particularly given his current miserable form.

 

[pup11]

Brad Hodge should be in the T20 squad.

Granted, he's 34 years old, but the World Cup is only months away.

He's clearly one of the best T20 batsmen in Australia.

Yeah that's true, Hodge definitely should be in there, he might not feature in Australia' long term plans (which is fair enough), but given the fact he is arguably world' best T20 batsman, and he should be a must in the Australian team for the upcoming T20 WC.

 

[chaminda_00]

Brad Hodge:

25 ODIs - 575 runs @ 30.26
8 T20Is - 94 runs @ 31.33

Hodge has played most of Australia's Twenty20 matches and hasn't really made the most of his chances, limited they may have been. The situation pretty similar in ODIs where he again hasn't made the most of his limited chances. He deserved a decent run, but guys like Mike Hussey and Katich all had limited chances and they made the most of it. TBH I don't think he done enough in the shorter forms of game with his limited chances to warrant a recall at his age. Test yes, but ODIs and T20Is no.

 

[Prince EWS]

Brad Hodge:

25 ODIs - 575 runs @ 30.26
8 T20Is - 94 runs @ 31.33

Hodge has played most of Australia's Twenty20 matches and hasn't really made the most of his chances, limited they may have been. The situation pretty similar in ODIs where he again hasn't made the most of his limited chances. He deserved a decent run, but guys like Mike Hussey and Katich all had limited chances and they made the most of it. TBH I don't think he done enough in the shorter forms of game with his limited chances to warrant a recall at his age. Test yes, but ODIs and T20Is no.

An average of 30 in Twenty20 Internationals is perfectly acceptable. In fact, it's pretty damn good.

 

[oldmancraigy]

An average of 30 in Twenty20 Internationals is perfectly acceptable. In fact, it's pretty damn good.

And he is in SUCH good form for Vic in that format too!

I don't understand picking Warner ahead of him to be frank... Good luck to Warner - but I can tell you who I'd feel more comfortable having at the crease! But here's hoping Warner hits plenty to, and over, the rope!

 

[Rant0r]

unfortunately for hodge's statistical record, a lot of times he was called in for say a one off appearance, thrust into 3 and failed then sent back to victoria.

for someone with only 25 games experience which really isn't any extended period it's not that bad.

i'm a little over the warner fad, i love watching the guy tee off, but he's played 2 above average innings all summer in the international arena after being given plenty of opportunities